look what I caught!!!

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Both of those birds are very beautiful. Love those owls' eyes !! Love my chickies and Guineas better. If I had caught that after my crew it would have been plucked, stuffed and roasted B 4 it knew what had happened to it.
Personally, I think it was very nice of you to take it far away. Could have been much worse results. I think most of us KNOW you aren't supposed to kill them. I don't intentionally hurt/kill anything. Don't believe in hunting...but that's each person's business. I like the grocery store.
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do you seek out all of the posts regarding wildlife just so you can tell people that it is illegal, I swear most of your posts are like this one and really unnecessary. We are people living our lives not criminals there is no way to go through this world abiding by all of the laws it is one thing if you see someone with blanket disregard for wildlife, but that is often not the case when you respond. I am just hoping that maybe you could comment on something other than the legalities of dealing with wild birds, deer, and the like it is getting very tiring.
 
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It's time for more coffee......
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Arherp does have a valid point. However I do not think it is necessary for him to continually push his beliefs on the rest of us. WE KNOW THE LAWS. If we have any doubts at least we know who to go to.

I do want to bring up a point though, since this is a public forum, I think we shouldnt focus posts on killing off hawks, etc. We need to keep a good reputation among all, if you do decide you're going to do something illegal, I think it would be best to do it and not tell anybody and then we can focus on the positive things about our chickens. Other interests out there Im SURE are reading posts and it would be bad to get a bad rap for stuff like this.

Remember the pigeon keepers in CA that were found to have been killing off thousands of hawks? That's horrible, and they have a bad name now, nobody likes them. I think we should just all keep quiet if we have to do a dirty deed to the occassional offender. That will prevent much of the disagreements on these types of threads.

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Holy Smokes. WTG Hen... but reading through, if you cannot possess a living or dead predator... well... what would happen to you if your dog, cat, chicken... or even a wild fox or even another hawk (or even a bad piece of meat!) killed this bird and he landed in your yard. YOU had nothing to do with it. Not like you trained your chicken to kill (oh I can hear the lawyers now) so how in the world could they prosecute you? As someone else said, it seems ridiculous, but then so does the law about not transporting an ice cream cone in your pocket... and that one is still on the books and could be enforced if someone wanted to make a point of it.

Hawks die just like any other plant or animal... how can you have a law on the books that punishes the person whose land it happens to fall on?

*shakes head* This is SO not what Jefferson and Company had in mind...


edit... sidenote... I think they're beautiful and understand their place in the cycle... I loathe rats and snakes so I appreciate raptors... but I also wouldn't want one visiting MY henhouse as if it were an all you can eat buffet either. I totally agree with how y'all handled this situation (wish it hadn't gotten your sis though) but I was just curious about the law thing. Seems a little warped that in a country that claims to be the Land of the Free that a person could be imprisoned just because a critter died on their property... plainly not from a gun shot... oh, wouldn't that be a bugger if a neighbor set out poison but the critter died on your lawn... holy crow how would you clear yourself? A necropsy would show poison, landed in your yard... oh you'd be toast. Just an uber-paranoid example, but it could happen and an innocent person could be hurt. Thus the law is flawed. If a law if flawed then it shouldn't be there, or at the very least it should be admitted that it IS flawed and the evidence needed to condemn a person should be exorbitant.... aka Beyond A Reasonable Doubt... *sigh* Sorry, easy to get distracted.
 
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Nathan.....,,.AMEN !
And might I add...only joking earlier when I said "I'd have it plucked, stuffed and roasted B 4 it knew what happened".
Actually, I'm a nurse, would have had its' vital signs and done a body check, cleaning and bandaging as needed. :)) hey, I felt bad finding that my RIR girls had killed a small woodpecker. :-((
Liz
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well Thansk god I did not kill it.
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Hes gone I know he will be back again next winter. I'll be gone by then
 
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Valid point, yes. Aren't others besides arherp trying to push their beliefs on others by saying it is OK to kill hawks? Arherp and others keep bringing this up because some people don't know when to keep quiet.



On another note. An early response said goshawk. I don't think so, even a juvenile goshawk that has fledged is larger than the hawk in the photo. I'm leaning towards sharp shinned. They aren't evil birds.
 
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