Mama and puppies, QUESTION

[Katy]

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She never bothered my neighbor's chickens before. It was up until one day she went into the brooder box and ate my 7 chicks is when she gone "CRAZY"

chickerdoodle
Today 4:59 am
Please find them all a home--including the mom. It is less expensive to spay your pets than allow them to breed. Animals need to be treated humanely by giving clear directions so they understand what you want and not by throwing across a room and beating with a broom. Dogs need mental and physical stimulation as well as affection and when they do not have that they do things like jumping over fences and escaping. Not trying to be mean but it seems she is not the right dog for you or your family.

We are not keeping any of them. We thought of keeping 1 but decided against it. I didn't pull out the broom and toss her down the hall at first. I pulled her back and told her no, even swat her butt when she went at it again. I kept doing that for a while until there was no breaking her focus off them then took the broom out and swat her (not beat her) and it was more of a push that slid her down the hallway. Not even a chain can keep this dog at bay, she has chewed through every known dog chain.

aggieterpkatie
Today 8:52 am A quick google search provides lots of information about feeding nursing grump.

You'll find info explaining that nursing grump need to be fed frequent meals, and needs to eat AT LEAST twice the food she was eating before. She should not be skin and bones. They can't get all the nutrition out of just 2 meals....it should really at least 4 meals per day.

Let me repeat myself, she got 2 science diets a day but I also have another bowl of food that is NEVER EMPTY for her of regular dog food. If it goes empty, it is refilled. I don't normally do that with dogs but I did it with her to add more feed to her.​

It doesn't matter if the one bowl was never empty if it wasn't a good quality food. Empty calories do her no good.​

 

[aggieterpkatie]

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Well obviously something is still wrong if she's starving to death.

 

[MomtoSyd&Emma]

my best friend breeds show dobermans, they are fed the best of food, some b1tches just look horrible when they whelp, some dont. The vet that tended the litter of (boxer)pups that we had couldnt believe how good our b1tch looked, he told me most look drained. I fed and still feed Purina Pro Plan, its a great food in my opinion. BUT You will here a different opinion on every food out there as everyone has an opinion. BUT I would certainly have her on a high calorie food (puppy), my b1tch got cottage cheese daily mixed with her food, and some canned puppy food. Good luck, I hope that Momma and all the puppies find wonderful homes, and that the new owners will spay them or neuter them so none of them go through this.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

If you no longer want the dogs, that's fine. It often happens with backyard breedings, that it why on the other thread with the Basset/Daushund litter almost everyone suggested the OP abort the litter and spay the b.itch.

You will lose more money on this litter than if you simply got the animal spayed to begin with, but the litter is already here, so no reason to preach this.

The responsible thing to do at this point would be to spay the dam before she is rehomed. As for the puppies, take them to the humane society. Hear me out! The humane society WILL spay and neuter them before they are found a new home, they WILL get their rabies shots and other vaccinations, and IF they don't find a home, they will be HUMANELY euthanised.

To me, this is a better option than simply giving away puppies to anyone that says "okay" and then half this litter experiences the same thing their mother did. Why contribute to the problem? Spay the dam and rehome her, don't take her to the humane society, she has a much less chance of being adopted.

 

[chinbunny]

Science diet puppy food is not bad. Just increase what she is eating. As far as the other high quality foods go, those are very expensive! i pay around $15 for a six pound bag of blue buffalo for a little dog. Imagine how much a big dog will go through. Not everyone can afford the expensive stuff either. Dogs that have large litters also tend to be on the skinny side.

I don't thnk you shoul dget rid of all of them just because the mom has bad habits. keep a puppy in her place if you want to. As far as fencing goes, people need to remember that a determined dog will go through anything to get to another animal. You can have the best building and the best fencing and they will still manage to tear through it, or go over it to get in.

 

[Katy]

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I think most people will find that with the better quality of feed, that even tho you pay more for the bag, they as a rule will eat less of it. My 80 pound husky mix eats 3 cups of Taste of the Wild everyday compared to the 5 or 6 cups she ate of her previous food. She's going thru less food and I'm paying out less now than I was before.

 

[chinbunny]

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No need to preach to her about backyard breeding. That is an animal rights term used to lump all breeders together. She shouldn't have to spay the dam before finding it ahome. And actually it should be the other way around. In my opinion the dam should be the one taken to the pound since she is killing chickens. She could easily find the puppies homes. Spaying and neutering them should be left up to the new owners, not the person that bred the litter. Now I am not saying she HAS to take the dam to the pound, but taking the puppies instead of her doesn't make a whol elot of sense since they would kill most of them anyhow. most humane societies give them the needle or stick them in the gas chamber after seven to ten days. That is if a rescue doesn't step in to take them first. Most don't have the funds to spay and neuter dogs, nor keep them for an extended amount of time, when they have more coming in. Also, nobody is going to want a chicken killer. Animal killers of any kind are sent to the pound where I am at.

And lastly, not every mishap or litter bred on purose is going to end up contributing to pet overpopulation. If you do that math, most don't. There are far too many dogs in breeding and pet homes, then there are in animal shelters. Plus shelters also contribute to a lot of the pet over population by importing dogs from other countries, and states. And wrongfully seizing a lot of them from their owners, where the animal should not have been taken from in the first place.

Bottom line, these are their puppies. Let them do what they want with them.

 

[chinbunny]

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I think most people will find that with the better quality of feed, that even tho you pay more for the bag, they as a rule will eat less of it. My 80 pound husky mix eats 3 cups of Taste of the Wild everyday compared to the 5 or 6 cups she ate of her previous food. She's going thru less food and I'm paying out less now than I was before.

Not in my experience they don't. My dog ate pedigree before I got her on blue buffalo. She ate a cup of it a day then. she still eats a cup a day now. She'd probably pig out on the food if I let her.

Same thing with the dog had previously. He ate grade quality dog food I used to get at the local farm and home store. Did just fine on it. Was in great condition. Tried the other stuff,a nd he still ate the same amount.

It really shouldn't matter what you feed your dog as long as they are healthy and you can afford it. Most don't feed the expensive stuff because its pretty much unaffordable.

 

[Katy]

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I think most people will find that with the better quality of feed, that even tho you pay more for the bag, they as a rule will eat less of it. My 80 pound husky mix eats 3 cups of Taste of the Wild everyday compared to the 5 or 6 cups she ate of her previous food. She's going thru less food and I'm paying out less now than I was before.

Not in my experience they don't. My dog ate pedigree before I got her on blue buffalo. She ate a cup of it a day then. she still eats a cup a day now. She'd probably pig out on the food if I let her.

Same thing with the dog had previously. He ate grade quality dog food I used to get at the local farm and home store. Did just fine on it. Was in great condition. Tried the other stuff,a nd he still ate the same amount.

It really shouldn't matter what you feed your dog as long as they are healthy and you can afford it. Most don't feed the expensive stuff because its pretty much unaffordable.

Mine would still eat 5-6 cups a day too if I let her. My point is they don't need as much to stay is good condition with a better quality food. I started her out on 4-5 cups a day and she started gaining too much weight so I cut her back until I found what amount it took to maintain her healthy weight.

Several people I know have had the same experiance....better quality food and less money being spent.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

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What? Why on earth would they import? Could you PLEASE back this statement up with factual evidence? I have never heard of a shelter in the US importing dogs from another country.