Mama Heating Pad in the Brooder (Picture Heavy) - UPDATE

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by Blooie, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. LV Poultry

    LV Poultry New Egg

    Oct 8, 2014
    I would say that depending on temps in your area, you should adjust is running in th 90's here in Oklahoma, ( I like to start out brooding about 90 or a little above) When I get mine set up, I will watch the temp and adjust daytime, I probably wouldn't even turn it on (depending on temps when my next batch hatches)....night time I would probably put it on about 4 and see how that goes, the chicks themselves will bring up the temp inside (I'm thinking), so 95 may be a little too hot..... Just a thought that I have been thinking on since I found this thread.
  2. azygous

    azygous Flock Master

    Dec 11, 2009
    Colorado Rockies
    Regarding the concern that Press 'n Seal might cause the pad to overheat or to overheat the cave, I doubt it has much insulating ability. It's just not necessary to wrap anything but the top surface to make brushing the poop turds off much easier.

    I love the stuff. I use a scrap of a discarded wool mattress pad inside my cave as flooring and I covered it with Press 'n Seal. I simply shake the turds off each morning and cave house cleaning is done.

    Guess what. I'm pretty sure MPC sent me another roo. They ought to admit they have a policy to include at least one cockerel, and sometimes two, with every order whether the customer wants them or not.
  3. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

    Jun 18, 2010
    Southern Oregon


    My first brood with the Cave [​IMG]. Chicks are 1-2 days old and spent the night in the brooder. My frame is a bit wide for the width of my tank, but I just smooshed the wire down some and raised the bottom inside with shavings. There's a gap behind the pad in the rounded end of the tank, I just piled shavings there also. The chicks seem content and when I pick them up they're quite warm and cozy feeling.

    I think the thing I like best about this system is using it in the summer. I was never too concerned about fire with a heat lamp. I didn't really like the light 24/7, even though it was red, but the chicks seemed to do okay. What I disliked was trying to guess how hot it would get in the barn on any given day and not fry the poor chicks if the ambient temp spiked. Or, unplugging the heat lamp when it was hot during the middle of the day, and forgetting to plug it back in when it cooled off. This takes all the guess work out of adjusting the heat!

    The chicks pictured above are 3 salmon Faverolles and one blue sex link. Look at that big ol white spot on the sex-link's head----it's again been the Year of the Rooster for me [​IMG]. Well, good thing we like chicken for's hoping the Faverolles are pullets [​IMG]
  4. RubyNala97

    RubyNala97 Overrun With Chickens

    Apr 9, 2015
    Hudson Valley, NY
    I agree. It might be too hot. I'm a single mom to 3 kids and my brain was thinking I'd have to re-do the whole setup! Duh!....just turn down the temp to a lower setting. I swear I didn't think of that! I'm going to put it down to 5 or even 4 and see what my temps are reading. And I will know the best once the chicks hatch, their behavior will direct me accordingly. Can I ask, do you have to teach them to go under there? I usually put them in the brooder, show them food and water and then let them decide where to go (how far under the light). Do you guys put the chicks in the cave? How many times do you show them?
  5. Blooie

    Blooie Team Spina Bifida Premium Member

    Feb 25, 2014
    Northwestern Wyoming
    My Coop
    If I have a group that doesn't naturally run under, I show one or two chicks where the heat is..kind pop them under and hold my hand in front until they feel the warmth. After that training time is over.....they go back under and the other chicks follow. But I've only had to help them once. Others on the thread have had to put them under a few times, some never. So it depends.
  6. RubyNala97

    RubyNala97 Overrun With Chickens

    Apr 9, 2015
    Hudson Valley, NY
    Ok thank you. Good to know! I'll watch them closely. As if, I don't stare at them all day anyway!
  7. bruceha2000

    bruceha2000 True BYC Addict Premium Member

    Apr 19, 2012
    NW Vermont
    Sorry to get all technical but hot air doesn't rise, cold air sinks, displacing the warmer air and forcing it up. I ran across this info on a heating and cooling forum where some plumbers were having an intense pi55ing contest on the subject and it just keeps popping back into my head. In the end, it really doesn't matter if heat rises or cold drops, the colder air is on the bottom and the hotter air is on the top. [​IMG]

    But as was pointed out, chicks under a hen are not heated from the bottom but from the sides since the hen obviously isn't sitting ON them. Her wings form the "cave" and trap the heat. The ones closest to the hen get more heat but the ones on the outside do just fine (*). I'm not sure my chicks sat on top of their surrogate Mama to get warm as I've not noticed my hens being particularly warm on the surface unless they have been out in the sun. I think when they sit on the MHP it is more likely a better view (like being on the hen) and maybe their feet warm up as well but it seems unlikely they would get much body warmth from it.

    * which just popped a question into my head which is likely an impossible experiment for any of us to do:
    Do the chicks rotate around under the hen so they all get time closest to the heat source?

    You aren't the only person here to have a "DOH!" moment. [​IMG]
  8. RLynch

    RLynch New Egg

    Aug 3, 2015
    LaGrange, KY
    I work in a very technical field, electronics. Thanks for your answer but whatever site you saw that cold air sinks is true, partially. Hot air does rise, its called convection. It is why supercell storm clouds 'lift' to 50-60,000 ft in height. They don't do that because all the cool air around them collapses and forces it up.. Think of your oven and leaning over to open the door. The heat blasts you in the face as it escapes the oven and rises over your head towards the ceiling. Or a hot air balloon for example... you get my point. Warm air is lighter than cool air in general. Again thank you, now I understand the principle is trying to mimic natural processes. Sort of like baking something in a dutch oven on a fire outside, you put coals on top and keep it off the fire so it wont burn!
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  9. perchie.girl

    perchie.girl Desert Dweller Premium Member

    Just a side note on this... do a little experiment.... affix a helium balloon on a string to the back seat or floor of the car... somewhere in the middle so it has free movement... Windows up. Now accelerate the car.... The balloon will move forward... matter of fact it will move toward the direction of acceleration.... Because the air collects in behind the balloon.... kind of like sloshed water... No convection no temperature changes just mechanical shift in the density of the air molecules...
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    Last edited: Aug 26, 2015
  10. MizPriz

    MizPriz Out Of The Brooder

    Aug 23, 2015
    Got my brooder set up, and brought home babies this evening. The love their "momma" cave! This is such an awesome idea [​IMG]




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