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Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!
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None of them were fertile.... That's what gets me! I don't see why they weren't fertile... other buyers say the eggs they got from this seller were very fertile and basically all of them hatched or about 80%
Sorry I'm not following you...they weren't fertile or they were fertile but just didn't develop? Did you see a bullseye on the yolk of the undeveloped eggs?
The eggs can still be fertile, but not develop....many factors can come into play here, vitamin deficiencies in the hen that can transfer to the egg, age of the eggs, age of the breeder birds....but most commonly it is usually from vitamin and mineral deficiency or diet low in protein if the eggs are fertile but do not develop. Most common vitamin deficiency in breeding flocks is vitamin A,D and E.
They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
None of them were fertile.... That's what gets me! I don't see why they weren't fertile... other buyers say the eggs they got from this seller were very fertile and basically all of them hatched or about 80%
Sorry I'm not following you...they weren't fertile or they were fertile but just didn't develop? Did you see a bullseye on the yolk of the undeveloped eggs?
The eggs can still be fertile, but not develop....many factors can come into play here, vitamin deficiencies in the hen that can transfer to the egg, age of the eggs, age of the breeder birds....but most commonly it is usually from vitamin and mineral deficiency or diet low in protein if the eggs are fertile but do not develop. Most common vitamin deficiency in breeding flocks is vitamin A,D and E.
They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
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Sorry I'm not following you...they weren't fertile or they were fertile but just didn't develop? Did you see a bullseye on the yolk of the undeveloped eggs?
The eggs can still be fertile, but not develop....many factors can come into play here, vitamin deficiencies in the hen that can transfer to the egg, age of the eggs, age of the breeder birds....but most commonly it is usually from vitamin and mineral deficiency or diet low in protein if the eggs are fertile but do not develop. Most common vitamin deficiency in breeding flocks is vitamin A,D and E.
They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A deficiency can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
Sorry I'm not following you...they weren't fertile or they were fertile but just didn't develop? Did you see a bullseye on the yolk of the undeveloped eggs?
The eggs can still be fertile, but not develop....many factors can come into play here, vitamin deficiencies in the hen that can transfer to the egg, age of the eggs, age of the breeder birds....but most commonly it is usually from vitamin and mineral deficiency or diet low in protein if the eggs are fertile but do not develop. Most common vitamin deficiency in breeding flocks is vitamin A,D and E.
They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A deficiency can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
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They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
I contacted the seller and she said other buyers have had 80% and she has sent all over the US.... I really really have no clue what happened....
I won't be discouraged just kinda sad since I really wanted some Marans! I'm going to buy some more eggs soon....
They weren't fertile (Except for the one that did and died) In the rest of the eggs there wasn't a bullseye.
Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
I contacted the seller and she said other buyers have had 80% and she has sent all over the US.... I really really have no clue what happened....
I won't be discouraged just kinda sad since I really wanted some Marans! I'm going to buy some more eggs soon....
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Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
I contacted the seller and she said other buyers have had 80% and she has sent all over the US.... I really really have no clue what happened....
I won't be discouraged just kinda sad since I really wanted some Marans! I'm going to buy some more eggs soon....
Steven ~ Did you happen to ask if her birds were molting or maybe had been wormed recently? Maybe a stressful situation on her birds caused the infertility? Keep on trying
Gotcha, Thanks! Okay.....lots more factors can come into play here. Ready?
Age of the cock birds and hens can play a roll, incorrect cock ratio to hens or visa versa, breeding flocks that may be too closely confined, even in flocks that may have enough room to roam and the correct cock to hen ratio....roosters can have favorites and other hens can be ignored. Fluffy vent areas with some Marans can also cause infertility and some simple trimming of the fluff/feathers around the vent area can help. Nutrition comes into play here as well.....the same deficiencies that can cause fertile eggs not to develop can cause infertility issues. Cock birds deficient in vit.E can suffer from degenerative testes causing low/reduced infertility to sterility. Vit A can cause low fertility in roosters as well. Overweight or underweight hens or pullets can be infertile. Chronic illnesses such as respiratory illnesses can cause infertility issues in flocks. There are so many other things that I am not even touching on...... like stress, birds could have been fertile and something may have stressed them out and the breeder is not aware that some of the hens eggs are infertile at this time....when just a few weeks ago they may have been fertile.
With my Marans I noticed infertility issues when I had 1...yep...1 hen too many in with my rooster, removed one hen and before I knew it.....I had fertile eggs again. So sometimes the issue can be easy to determine (which in most cases it is) or sometimes it can be very hard to determine and we may never know.
Vitamin deficiencies also are some of the most common reasons fertile eggs can start to develop but then quit early on in the incubation stages, and causing issues all the way to the end of incubation where the chick can fully form but dies.
I hope this helps and please don't get discouraged. I completely understand how sad it is to anticipate the hatch to only be discouraged and heart broken....many times I have only had 1 or 2 eggs hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs....I have also had ZERO chicks hatch out of shipped eggs and my own eggs. Keep trying my friend!
I contacted the seller and she said other buyers have had 80% and she has sent all over the US.... I really really have no clue what happened....
I won't be discouraged just kinda sad since I really wanted some Marans! I'm going to buy some more eggs soon....
Steven ~ Did you happen to ask if her birds were molting or maybe had been wormed recently? Maybe a stressful situation on her birds caused the infertility? Keep on trying
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY Moms!!!!!!!!!!
Well, got to plant my veggies yesterday. Still more maters to plant, but the body would only go so far.
The ground is still so wet here, it was like digging in a swamp! Will finish the rest up today. A good friend stopped by last night for a long over-due visit. She had not seen the coop or chooks yet, so I had to give the tour. They were still running around the yard when she arrived, but since it was getting darker, I called the chickens into the run. "Your chickens listen to you??" Yup. "Ok, now here's a dumb question, but why are the hens all wearing dresses???"
I explained the bare-backed pullet syndrome to her, and she had a good laugh. "Makes sense, though. You sure don't need them to get sunburned!" Agreed!
Debbi~
So jealous that you got veggies in the ground.....we can't even finish tilling here yet.
My poor starts are going to climb out of their starter trays....I should transplant them to bigger temporary pots but that = lots more work.....and who wants to handle them all 3 or 4 times before they get put in the ground.
Hoping for some nicer weather on the way for the PNW....I heard it's on its way.
Need to get the new grow out pen finished as well (it was suppose to be done last summer
.....NOT!!!!) I have lots of cockerels to put in it when it's done. My nephew bought me a nice storage shed for housing bedding and feed...maybe we can get that up too with some nicer weather.
Lil' Bill is living with his father for right now and doing great...Bill is such a good boy, I know I've said that before, but he is. He took lil' Bill right under his wing (Lil' Bill at 4 mos is not so little
) and was protecting him from his hens that wanted to bully the poor guy. Both were crowing in unison this morning. Cute...a little family affair.
So jealous that you got veggies in the ground.....we can't even finish tilling here yet.
Need to get the new grow out pen finished as well (it was suppose to be done last summer
Lil' Bill is living with his father for right now and doing great...Bill is such a good boy, I know I've said that before, but he is. He took lil' Bill right under his wing (Lil' Bill at 4 mos is not so little
Pink ~ We are going to have some really warm (hot) weather here for the next few days, so I jumped at the opportunity to get them planted! I was so sick of hauling them in and out to get sun. I love the "good roos"! My friend was just amazed that all 5 of my roos lived together without killing each other. There are small skirmishes here now and then, but no major battles. Well, except for yesterday when Blue Butt decided he was going to attempt to mount one of the girls, Mossy. Holy cow! She fought him like a roo, but definately got her point across to him!
Clyde watched it going on, and after a bit, he decided it was enough, lesson learned, and broke up the fight. Blue Butt is just over 4 months old, and looks like another turkey in the making. Got to get some more pens built here!!!!
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