Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Ivywoods]

My grow out pen is a "temporary" one, too. HOWEVER... since "things happen" and I'm not sure we will get the new barn finished before winter, I want to be sure this one will be adequate. They may have to stay in there longer than what I would like.

 

[math ace]

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I have survived the last 5 months using temp. pens. I built 3 large brooders earlier this year. They are serving as temp coops for the temp pens now.
We have the first REAL coop almost finished. . . . . Then I need to build two more ASAP. I am using an olld dog house as a temp coop in one of the
new pens until I can get the new coop built. I can so relate.

Dh and I do most of our chicken work on the weekends. Monday - Friday, I do what I can. HOWEVER, somethings ( like the old dog house) are just too heavy for one person.
Plus, a carpenter I am NOT. . . so I can do some basic construction ( like brooders) but fancy dancy coop building is beyond my abilities.

 

[Ivywoods]

Hi Math-

Fancy dancy mine will not be. I'm hoping for functional and convenient.

I can do a lot of basic construction myself, however, an entire barn.... NOT!

The good news is my son will be in between the end of the semester and the start of summer classes in college and will be home for an extended weekend (if his work schedule doesn't interfere.) He likes to work and keep busy, SOOOOO... I have LOTS to keep him busy while he is here!

 

[VillageChicken]

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Good question. I don't think it's perfectly understood, but it sounds like a recessive inhibitor combined with the pti-1L gene. I found this quote on stubs "The last two genes came from a study on Rhode Island Reds (Crawford, 1990). It was mentioned that these stub genes may be partially sex-limited, as stubs expression was more prominent in males. Other studies indicated a polygenic basis for the stubs trait (ie, multiple genes involved, acummulative effect on expression). "

So maybe there is a mutation within feathered shanked varieties, a separate gene, that inhibits expression in two doses, but not in one (recessive). When bred to a non-feathered variety (ameraucana) the inhibitor and the pti-1L both drop to one dose, but because the pti-1L is dominant, the feathers express and the inhibitor is rendered inactive. Does that make sense?

 

[pinkchick]

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Good question. I don't think it's perfectly understood, but it sounds like a recessive inhibitor combined with the pti-1L gene. I found this quote on stubs "The last two genes came from a study on Rhode Island Reds (Crawford, 1990). It was mentioned that these stub genes may be partially sex-limited, as stubs expression was more prominent in males. Other studies indicated a polygenic basis for the stubs trait (ie, multiple genes involved, acummulative effect on expression). "

So maybe there is a mutation within feathered shanked varieties, a separate gene, that inhibits expression in two doses, but not in one (recessive). When bred to a non-feathered variety (ameraucana) the inhibitor and the pti-1L both drop to one dose, but because the pti-1L is dominant, the feathers express and the inhibitor is rendered inactive. Does that make sense?

Thank You! Yes it makes sense! Thanks for taking the time to answer. Thanks to everyone who took the time to give input on this.

You know something funny......both birds produced were male.

 

[flgardengirl]

We actually got some work done on the big 6 house breeder coop over the weekend. However, then all of a sudden dh gets the idea that he is gonna make these tall fancy gothic arch windows on the front. GRRRR!! Ok, that seems nice and all but each one takes a bunch of time and we have been working on this coop forever! I know he is trying to be nice....so what do ya do? LOL Now this stupid coop has two of these windows in the front so far and there gonna be 6 houses total. Hmmmm that means he will probably be making 4 more and it hogged up most of the time over the weekend making them. Why do they do this?

 

[pinkchick]

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Because they love us!

 

[Ivywoods]

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Because they love us!

Great answer! Right now I'd just like to get mine started!

Oh, well. I know he loves me anyway.

 

[flgardengirl]

Haha ya I know and that's why I didn't say anything about it even though I wanted to. It still takes up too much time. I'd rather have a plain one sooner LOL! But okay whatever.

 

[sewandgrow]

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Who is the best place on line to get this book from, I saw a bunch of the dealers were from the UK?

I buy all my old poultry books from abebooks and have never had a problem.

I got mine from either Amazon or Ebay.