Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[pinkchick]

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Love the copper in the girls' hackles!!!!!

What is that pretty red shouldered bird in the back ground?

 

[3riverschick]

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Karen, Got any pics?? I don't think we've had any, or at least I've not seen a BTB here? Not one that is supposed to look like one anyway!

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Hi,
I see a lot of buff colored BTB around. Studied the genetic formula a lot and should be much darker. They say breed like New Hampshire in the Standard but many I have seen look like they have been bred to a lighter classic buff color.. I think there's some basic misunderstanding about exactly what hue "buff" the standard is talking about. I can take pics tomorrow, weather permitting. These girls are nice because they have a good dose of the Mh which makes that nice dark New Hampshire color. Their sire was a GS out of parents, neither of which were GS. The dam of these pullets was GS. I suspect the the parents of the sire of these chicks was the product of a BTB ...bred to a GS(whose parents were White Pyle and/or GS Marans.) So to cement this nice dark color, I need a male who is very dark.
Best,
Karen

 

[Debbi]

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This is a really GREAT way to make JUDGES and WINNERS mad as heck!

Go ahead ask me how I know...

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..and to that I say, TOUGH COOKIES! Judges should be up on the SOP by now, and those that CHOOSE to show their birds in a public forum, should have a thick enough hide to take CONSTRUCTIVE critism. JMO and I'm not hiding under any chair...

 

[Debbi]

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Karen, Got any pics?? I don't think we've had any, or at least I've not seen a BTB here? Not one that is supposed to look like one anyway!

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Hi,
I see a lot of buff colored BTB around. Studied the genetic formula a lot and should be much darker. They say breed like New Hampshire in the Standard but many I have seen look like they have been bred to a lighter classic buff color.. I think there's some basic misunderstanding about exactly what hue "buff" the standard is talking about. I can take pics tomorrow, weather permitting. These girls are nice because they have a good dose of the Mh which makes that nice dark New Hampshire color. Their sire was a GS out of parents, neither of which were GS. The dam of these pullets was GS. I suspect the the parents of the sire of these chicks was the product of a BTB ...bred to a GS(whose parents were White Pyle and/or GS Marans.) So to cement this nice dark color, I need a male who is very dark.
Best,
Karen

Karen,

By GS, I assume you are refering to a Golden Salmon?? I've seen quite a few birds that looked like a BTB, but what they were in actuality, were sports or overly red BCMs. What breed is the "White Pyle" coming from?? This sounds scary to me; we don't have the BCMs breeding true to type/color yet, but all of these different colors are being added, and many still don't amount to anything more than "projects". The problems we are now seeing in the combs of Marans that were crosses with the Penedesenca breed are telltale of that debaucle.

 

[hdowden]

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Love the copper in the girls' hackles!!!!!

What is that pretty red shouldered bird in the back ground?

he's a red shoulder yokhama (long tail breed in case u didnt know

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[flgardengirl]

I had a BTB pop up from the bayhorsebonnie BCM line. His legs are light so most likely not an overcolored bcm and none of my other bcms from that line were overcolored. I also have a barred BTB that I had originally thought was a golden cuckoo marans when I first got into golden cuckoos. He is from a separate line than my other golden cuckoos that I got from pasofino later on. He is still my favorite roo though, too bad his shanks aren't feathered. I have noooo BTB girls for either one though and my only wheaten female got taken by a predator so that idea is out too lol.

 

[pinkchick]

Math Ace~
I owe you an apology....I was just out at the coops and was lovin on my Bill boy and you are ABSOLUTELY correct when you asked about the thumbprint....he has the same thing as Lil Bill, both have an indentation on one side of the comb and nothing going through to the opposite side of the comb. Bill's just doesn't have any wrinkles in the area that you were seeing. I just had to go take a real good long look and stick my thumb in it to see if it fit....yep sure enough fits the old thumb like a glove.

 

[pinkchick]

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Love the copper in the girls' hackles!!!!!

What is that pretty red shouldered bird in the back ground?

he's a red shoulder yokhama (long tail breed in case u didnt know

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I thought so, Yoko's are beautiful and I looked into them a couple of years ago as one of the top breeders in the country doesn't live to far away from me, but I hesitated because of the tails and all the Washington State rain.

 

[flgardengirl]

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Pretty girl!!!

 

[hdowden]

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he's a red shoulder yokhama (long tail breed in case u didnt know

)

I thought so, Yoko's are beautiful and I looked into them a couple of years ago as one of the top breeders in the country doesn't live to far away from me, but I hesitated because of the tails and all the Washington State rain.

rain and mud are not good for their tails at all just got done raining here yesterday and it has destroyed their tails but thats ok they are only about 5-6 months if i remeber correctly and theres pleanty of time for their tails to get back into shape as long as it doesnt rain that much have them and sumatras 2 different colors of both but they arent from a breeder and i'm looking into getting some bantam phineox from 2 different breeders and those will be my main long tails and i cant wait to get them this spring