Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[gilavina]

Good deal Vicki! Good luck on the hatch, let's hope for some gooduns!

Lost my JR last night. All that was left was a pile of feathers, 25' further, 3 more feathers, then nothing. My dog Otho kept going to the old shed and coming back to look at me, so went over there; more feathers. Seems whatever got him, and I'm expecting a Fox, is now under the shed. The dog kept leading me over there all day, and seriously sniffing around like the perp was still under there. Three more roos would not go into the run tonight, so there may be another one gone by morning. Didn't hear a sound last night, neither did the dogs, and since the whole carcass was gone, I'm assuming fox. Coyotes wouldn't go under the shed, coons eat just so much and leave a carcass as do possums, and bobcats are too shy about the dogs and lights around here. Guess the trap will be set tomorrow for the varmint... Pip roosts up on the front porch, hope the other two do the same... Luckily, all the hens are coming into the run right away now when called up! Olivia is sad, cause JR was her roost buddy.

Awwww that's too bad Debbi! I hope you catch the stinker that got him! Even if it isn't a favorite bird, it still really sucks to lose even one.

Gonna shoot a PM to you quick...need to bounce a couple of ideas around at ya!

 

[ruth]

I posted earlier I have a "project" pen for the Blue Copper Marans I'm breeding from my original Black Copper line. Here's the roo in the pen today that I hatched earlier this season. I know they need work, hence the name "project" but not too bad for a first generation starting from nothing. He's in with some of my black copper hens and some blue copper hens that also hatched earlier this year - one of which has already gone broody and is sitting on a nest full of eggs. I'm hoping they all hatch and she can raise them.














and some of his splash babies that just hatched.

 

[Debbi]

I posted earlier I have a "project" pen for the Blue Copper Marans I'm breeding from my original Black Copper line. Here's the roo in the pen today that I hatched earlier this season. I know they need work, hence the name "project" but not too bad for a first generation starting from nothing. He's in with some of my black copper hens and some blue copper hens that also hatched earlier this year - one of which has already gone broody and is sitting on a nest full of eggs. I'm hoping they all hatch and she can raise them.














and some of his splash babies that just hatched.

Ruth,

He looks from these pics to have side sprigs towards the front of his comb? Also, I don't see any shank feathering, maybe my monitor, but definately not what it should be. Otherwise, he looks nice. Have you seen any Carnation combs pop up within your flock?

 

[3riverschick]

I don't understand all the genetic code etc... but I understand that Columbian marans has been created by use of the "duckwing" presentation... which genetic code was used... I have no idea... (kinda wish I did)

Would the crossing in of Penedesenca genes produce the opportunity for a different set of genetic code or does your explaination cover that as well? I surmise that one of the presentations I have seen came in a cross with penedesenca.. Thanks

Funny you should mention that. Currently there's a problem in some Marans circles where spmeone(s) crossed Marans and Pennes and sold the chicks as Marans. Now some flocks are showing up with carnation combs. Flocks whch had no idea they had any Penne in their genetic structure. Now spending time weeding out the problem. Sigh.
Best,
Karen

 

[Debbi]

Funny you should mention that. Currently there's a problem in some Marans circles where spmeone(s) crossed Marans and Pennes and sold the chicks as Marans. Now some flocks are showing up with carnation combs. Flocks whch had no idea they had any Penne in their genetic structure. Now spending time weeding out the problem. Sigh.
Best,
Karen

Are you kidding me?? Have you not read the thread on here?? This is a major problem within the breed! I brought it up here, and on the MCCU yahoo group, only to be met with some condesending tones, some denials, and quite a few that said they had the same problem (ie Carnations)! This problem has been around for a long time, but because of the tiny gene pool here, MANY lines now posses this problem, if not all lines! The ones that started it won't admit to ever have seeing it! Close your flocks NOW if you honestly don't have this problem!!!!!

 

[geebs]

 

[ruth]

Ruth,

He looks from these pics to have side sprigs towards the front of his comb? Also, I don't see any shank feathering, maybe my monitor, but definately not what it should be. Otherwise, he looks nice. Have you seen any Carnation combs pop up within your flock?

Thanks Debbie - he doesn't have much shank feathering - just a few nubs left. His father, from Whitmore Farms, had no feathering so that's one of the main things I'm working on. I was happy to see his first babies hatch with nice feathered legs. He doesn't have any side sprigs but he does have a few "hairs" that were sticking up by his comb. It was a wet and muddy day today after monsoons last night. No I haven't seen any Carnation combs at all. Is that a problem in some Marans flocks? I'm afraid I've been out of the loop as far as BYC and thread discussions.

Here's a close up of the blue roos "cowlicks".

 

[Debbi]

Pennes: that is an old problem... Been around since I got my first bird... Don't know if some were imported that way or created... I do know that in the beginning of the big sales rush there was a breeder selling the cross as marans with many different colors.. That breeder has been gone for a while but the legacy remains... I wouldn't buy from anyone who houses both... Just the way it is... There are more crosses than clean line IMHO There are quite a few ppl here on BYC that cross them and sell them... It is a problem... I try to get closest to the point of import or origin to avoid that... Getting harder to do every year.

Geebs ~ You are right! And if I remember correctly, you were the first one to warn me of this problem! It has started from some high places, and continues to this day by people that don't know, or won't acknowledge the problem! I have contacted all people I have had this problem from their eggs, or evne supposed lines. Some have been willing to "look into it", some have become quite hateful in their denial, and some have denied EVER seeing this problem!

 

[Debbi]

Thanks Debbie - he doesn't have much shank feathering - just a few nubs left. His father, from Whitmore Farms, had no feathering so that's one of the main things I'm working on. I was happy to see his first babies hatch with nice feathered legs. He doesn't have any side sprigs but he does have a few "hairs" that were sticking up by his comb. It was a wet and muddy day today after monsoons last night. No I haven't seen any Carnation combs at all. Is that a problem in some Marans flocks? I'm afraid I've been out of the loop as far as BYC and thread discussions.

Here's a close up of the blue roos "cowlicks".

Ruth, the side sprigs are on the other side of his comb, (pics showing the left side of his head), and from the first pics, there looks like 2 of them up toward the front area. Yes, the Carnation comb is a HUGE problem within the breed now, and is spreading like wildfire!! Check all of you hens with flopped combs, and the blades of the roos.

 

[geebs]