I have Blue Coppers that so far are all blue. The guy I got them from was breeding them to not show the copper. They are 5 months and so far nothing. I dont have a roo that doesnt have copper so as soon as I breed them Im sure the copper will come right back.True solid Black or Blue is hard to find. If you find any let me know I would love some and so far no luck. I keep getting bleed thru of copper on necks. Poo!