Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

My daughter and I are also looking for a Marans 'fella' for her this spring!
What would happen if we bought a Cuckoo Marans for her? We may have the opportunity to get one locally soon.
If you use a Cuckoo with her, you will get mixed chicks. If you use a Black Copper, you will get all Blue/Blue Coppers. If you use a Splash, you will get all Splash chicks. If you use a Blue or Blue Copper, you will get about half and half Splash and Blue/Blue Coppers.

All of this is based on our experiences. None of the percentages are intended to be exact. There are always things that can and will mess up the norm.

JMO,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
www.Marans2XL.com
 
He is still young and has time to change. Sometimes, these birds amaze me with the changes they make as they mature. At this point, he has too much copper to work in our program. I would like to see him in a few months.

JMO,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
www.Marans2XL.com

Have you ever seen one with too much copper get less as they mature? I think they just get more, not less. I have culled mine when they looked like that.
 
Here is my FBCM Cockeral. He is 15 weeks. He is from Wade Jean/Bev Davis and Cottage Hill lines. I think he has a little much color on the breasts but not sure. What do you think?
I wouldn't use a bird colored like this as a juvenile in any BCM breeding program, but he could make some nice olive eggers for you if you put him over blue egg laying hens.
 
I wouldn't use a bird colored like this as a juvenile in any BCM breeding program, but he could make some nice olive eggers for you if you put him over blue egg laying hens.
These brown colored males should be culled from any serious Marans flock that is being bred to the SOP, nothing good will come from breeding them.
 
Have you ever seen one with too much copper get less as they mature? I think they just get more, not less. I have culled mine when they looked like that.
They usually get more color. With that much color in the breast, I would think that it will only get worse. The Shows allow for a little copper in the breast, but is clearly against lacing. I would be afraid that use a male with that much color. I would be afraid that he would produce males like himself and females that were mossy.

It is pretty easy for me to cull chickens because we have so many hatching a growing out. Before advising people to cull a chicken, I have to remind myself of the days when we were limited on the number of breeding birds that we had and replacing them was not easy. I am thankful that we have our breeding program to the point that we are pretty confident in what our offspring will look like.

In the beginning, I thought that I would just go out and buy six to ten of the best females I could find and a couple of good males. After searching and searching and searching, I realized that good Marans were not easy to find. Females were almost impossible. Not because there weren't any good ones, but because people did not want to sell what they had. Now I can understand keeping good birds and building a breeding program around them.

People look shocked when I price them a good bird at a show. I simply explain that we sell chicks and hatching eggs. When you think about what a dozen hatching eggs or day old chicks will bring, why would I want to sell my pullet or cockerel for any less????? When we price the cockerels sometimes we have to explain that the males are half of every breeding program. Breeding great females to okay males just doesn't make much sense to me.

JMO,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
www.Marans2XL.com
 
These brown colored males should be culled from any serious Marans flock that is being bred to the SOP, nothing good will come from breeding them.
Yes, did you think I was saying to breed him in a Marans program? That is not, of course, what I said nor would I keep a bird like this in my Marans programs. I don't consider an olive egger program a Marans program. It's an olive egger program. I'm not sure how to take your comment unless you were merely agreeing??? I typically tend to avoid this thread because it's so confrontational.
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Here's my Blue Copper boy... I would love to hear what people think, for better or worse. He's got a pleasant personality and treats his ladies well.
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Yes, did you think I was saying to breed him in a Marans program? That is not, of course, what I said nor would I keep a bird like this in my Marans programs. I don't consider an olive egger program a Marans program. It's an olive egger program. I'm not sure how to take your comment unless you were merely agreeing??? I typically tend to avoid this thread because it's so confrontational.
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I never want anyone to take anything that I say in a negative way. I understand that different people have different goals. I simply try to advise people who ask based on experiences that we have had. We have worked hard to get where we are with our program. Many of our mistakes could have been avoided if we would have had good advice from people with experience.

From Experience,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
www.Marans2XL.com
 
I never want anyone to take anything that I say in a negative way. I understand that different people have different goals. I simply try to advise people who ask based on experiences that we have had. We have worked hard to get where we are with our program. Many of our mistakes could have been avoided if we would have had good advice from people with experience.

From Experience,
Ernie Haire
Arp, Texas
www.Marans2XL.com
Sometimes it's too easy to take things in a negative way without the benefit of faces and tones of voice. I've learned a lot from reading this thread. There is a ton of valuable experience here and some fun people! I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is a way to be constructive in an easy going way to encourage more participation. It is in the breeds best interest that we don't alienate potential partners by being aggressive or by communicating in an elitist way. This thread isn't always the most welcoming environment so I'm usually just a lurker. It's fun to post here every once in awhile, though.

Yes, everyone has their own goals. I like that answer and I agree that the folks on this forum can help people avoid making known mistakes.
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Have you ever seen one with too much copper get less as they mature? I think they just get more, not less. I have culled mine when they looked like that.


Not one with that much copper, but I have seen a 10%-20% copper on chest cock show much less - to - no copper, as they pass the one year mark. But I must be honest and say I always eat birds with that much copper before they are old enough to breed so I do not know if they would loose copper too?

-Keara
 

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