Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[1876 Farm]

B eggs are from chicks I ordered from Florida. I'm in Texas.

Ladycat,

Do you sell your eggs? or would you be willing to share your source?

Thanks!

 

[ladycat]

Ladycat,

Do you sell your eggs? or would you be willing to share your source?

Thanks!

My source is Beverly Davis, or rather, her hatching partner.

I probably won't have many to sell for a month or two because I'll be hatching them.

If you want more info on buying eggs from me, pm me.

 

[3riverschick]

I can't remember where I read it I look on the web about blue marans and blue copper marans it was some thing I was thinking about I fairly new to the marans so I'm still trying to figure thing out. Question what would you need to breed to get a salmon marans

It's not what you "need", it's what you "don't" need.

Golden Salmon is when there are no other colors but Gold and located on the e+ locus. Then if you take away the gold gene and add a silver gene, you get Silver Salmon. Then if you want the blue version, you can add the blue gene or either the e+ based silver ...or the e+ based gold bird.
Simple as that. Salmon is much more the "absence" of almost every color gene or modifier gene. Breeding Salmon Marans is a winnowing process, not a balancing process. See how simple it is? Simple, but at the same time very difficult in its simplicity. Because you need 2 birds with at least one half of their genetics based on the e+ locus..and no autosomal red involved anywhere. . Then you are culling for 25%, 12,5% or as little as 6.25% of all the chicks hatched in a season. It's winnowing the pure gold out of the classic gold and silver genetics crossings. If you can get birds which are 1/2 Silver Salmon and 1/2 Golden Salmon, and both birds at least 1/2 e+ locus, you can get Golden Salmon from them.
Best,
Karen

 

[CarolinaSkies]

This is a Marans. He came from the Marans order I placed last fall with a source I'll never order from again because of all the substitutions. I ordered BTB and Silver Cuckoos, and got mostly wheaton + this guy.

Is he a Blue Tailed Buff?







Do you have any of his chick pictures? If not, what did his chick down look like?

 

[ladycat]

I didn't have a working camera when he was a chick. I've only had a camera for 2 months.

The best I remember, he was mostly blue.

But wait- I think my brother took some pics with his camera phone. I'll see if I can find those pics.

 

[ladycat]

Do you have any of his chick pictures? If not, what did his chick down look like?

My brother's phone camera takes blurry pics, that's why I had to get a good camera.

Here are the best pics I could find.

 

[CarolinaSkies]

My brother's phone camera takes blurry pics, that's why I had to get a good camera.

Here are the best pics I could find.

I'm not an expert, far from it, but the first picture shows dorsal lines like a wildtype chick. Golden Salmon and Silver Salmon are wildtype, but the base color is off. Even the last picture shows a bit of a dorsal line at tip. Wheaten and BTB chicks don't look like these. Anyone else have any ideas?

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: Almost looks like my autosexing breeds like a CCL the roos will have a spot on the head like that too..... strange.... not a pure Marans for sure. Never seen a pic of a chick like that.

 

[CarolinaSkies]

Almost looks like my autosexing breeds like a CCL the roos will have a spot on the head like that too..... strange.... not a pure Marans for sure. Never seen a pic of a chick like that.

I'll stop short of saying that he's not pure Marans, but, at best, I think his variety is mixed. I saw a picture of a Cuckoo x Golden Salmon Marans chick that still had dorsal stripes. BTW, which chick was he in the pictures? No doubt, that makes a big difference.

 

[ladycat]

BTW, which chick was he in the pictures?

Those are all the same chick. This is him now: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...sion-pictures-are-welcome/47960#post_13023957