Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[CarolinaSkies]

Those are all the same chick. This is him now: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...sion-pictures-are-welcome/47960#post_13023957

Oh, my mistake.

 

[3riverschick]

Locations of various Marans strains in North America. Contact each person for availability.
Some may no longer have the breed but a good place to start research.
Many of these notes were posted years ago, but they contain clues, contact info and breed information.
Best Success,
Karen in western PA, USA
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Posted years ago, I forgot to put in the date ( most probably late 2006/early 2007 ). Perhaps he remembers who he sold them too. I have the following chicks for sale:
Group #1 Ripley/LaBelle stock $3.00 each Hatched on 3/15/06 9 pullets (6 with feather legs) 4 cockerels (2 with feather legs)
Group #2 Ripley/Labelle stock $2.50 each Hatched on 4/3/06 4 pullets (3 with feather legs) 2 cockerels (1 with feather legs)
Group #3 Ripley(Kelly Cratty)Cock & Ripley/Labelle hens $2.50 each Hatched on 4/16/06 16 pullets (13 with feather legs) 2 cockerels
All these are being sold in the designated groups. Shipping or delivery is negotiable. I am located 90 miles Southwest of Atlanta, Ga.(I-85) 90 miles South of Birmingham, AL.(U.S.280) 45 miles East of Montgomery, AL(I-85) Feel free to call 8:00am to 10:00pm CDT any day. I remain, Your Humble & Obed't Serv't Lee Humphrey Notasulga, AL 36866 ( online nickname: hardluckhumphrey )
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http://hpbaa.com/Marans.html
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http://tinyurl.com/b75yh82 Wow, Fugate is dead, La belle sold his Marans to the US and got out of the breed. Susan Clark sisn't in the breed any longer? Mr. Wilburn is dead. Voices from the past. http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/company?companyId=27902604&targetid=profile
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Fugate eggs: http://www.oocities.org/fang772002/featheredfriends.html
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Shilala is a huge cuckoo fan Each of th strains of cuckoo had their own distinct advantages. He can talk history with you. http://shilala.homestead.com/maran.html
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http://www.freewebs.com/shineonfarm/marans.htm I also have Cuckoo that are Fugate and the Ripley. I keep several of each line pure and I also have some that have been crossed.
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Citron_d'uccle Location: Fort Worth, TX Joined: 8/2011 Posts: 123 offline knows where to find these strains: Staffordshire, Fitch, Ripley, Fugate
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#51597 - 11/19/07 06:40 PM Golden Cuckoo Tater Keepers New Egg Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 7 Loc: Arkansas I am on my 4th generation of my fugate cuckoo maran program . I am getting a lot of golden cuckoos.The trait seems to have began as one golden feather on the hackle of the rooster we chose to breed with 4 years ago.Is this a negitive sign of in- breeding or is this sport (golden) just a happy accident.Aprox 40% of the hatch is golden. Thank you for any input
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LAMARLUVABLES FRENCH BLACK COPPER MARANS,CUCKOO MARANS). http://www.louisianachickens.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=25&id=1402&Itemid=2 ok, here's a clue. Fugate lived in Athens, Tenn., this guy lives in Louisana. Maybe he has FUGATE? Grisham, Fugate & Calicowoods.??
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http://dallas.listlux.com/a,35,337627,8x7-NEW-Garage-Door--325----325--.htm CUCKOO MARANS: These rare birds are very pretty dark brown egg layers, my stock comes from really nice imported lines including: Staffordshire, Fitch Ripley, and Fugate, (Karen: does she have separate strains or Shilala cuckoos?, something to ask)all the birds are feathered legged. Chicks are $3.00 each All my chickens and guineas are pure-bred, each variety is housed separately
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This closeout sale was 6 years ago. Maybe Vicki has records who she sold the Cratty and Fugate too: http://dallas.listlux.com/a,35,337627,8x7-NEW-Garage-Door--325----325--.htm
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/7mFarm-Herbal/message/17180 This was posted 10yrs. ago. She may still have the, I am thinking English/Canadian might be Labelle and/or Ripley
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Of everything I have see, I like the Shine On Farms eggs the best. Didn't spend a lot of looking at the birds, tho. always ask for egg shell samples when considering Marans.
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Traincuckoo marans chocolate eggs from pasofinofarm. west bend i am aug compared to barred rock may what. Chocolatethis ... Correctly golden think they were developed in sort that is pure. ... Mix of dark chocolate ripley line of comparison.
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Well, this is interesting---pure Ripley~~ https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ng-pics-of-your-eggs-chicks-and-chickens/4020 If you approach this person be able to discuss the US Marans history and the role Ripley and his birds played in it. Have a writtem 5 generatpn breeding plan and be able to articulate why and what you are going to do. That you plan to never cross these bids with any other strain/line/breed...and mean it. You will probably only get one chance at them. BTW, I am a huge fan of Kermit's knowledge. So much of it is written down on the defunct namb list at yahoo. How I wish it could be brought over here.

 

[1876 Farm]

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Well, this is interesting---pure Ripley~~ https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ng-pics-of-your-eggs-chicks-and-chickens/4020 If you approach this person be able to discuss the US Marans history and the role Ripley and his birds played in it. Have a written 5 generation breeding plan and be able to articulate why and what you are going to do. That you plan to never cross these bids with any other strain/line/breed...and mean it. You will probably only get one chance at them. BTW, I am a huge fan of Kermit's knowledge. So much of it is written down on the defunct namb list at yahoo. How I wish it could be brought over here.

How do you make a 5 generation breeding plan? and how do you even figure out how to start? Is generation 1 the birds you start with and then generation 2 the offspring of those birds? And then how do you decide who you breed with who?

 

[3riverschick]

How do you make a 5 generation breeding plan? and how do you even figure out how to start? Is generation 1 the birds you start with and then generation 2 the offspring of those birds? And then how do you decide who you breed with who?

Here are two classic plans. Look up "rotational line breeding" and use it for as many generations as you want. Bob Blosl was the late beloved founder of the BYC Heritage Large Fowl thread. A great teacher who loved to teach folk to breed better fowl. Here he is explaining it: http://bloslspoutlryfarm.tripod.com/id60.html
Also look up the plan in Wid Cards' book online at this URL: https://archive.org/details/cu31924003158312
It's another classic breeding plan that can run for more than 5 generations. Wid Card was an elite veteran poultryman ( creator of the White-Laced Red Cornish) one of whose greatest gifts to the poultry world was his ability to make complicated breeding simple to the layperson. He used to go from show to show and sit with folks, explaining the ins and out of successful poultry breeding.
Done correctly and with judicious selection, arguably, neither plan requires outcross blood.
Best Success,
Karen.

 

[doubleleft]

Locations of various Marans strains in North America. Contact each person for availability.
Some may no longer have the breed but a good place to start research.
Many of these notes were posted years ago, but they contain clues, contact info and breed information.
Best Success,
Karen in western PA, USA
===================================
Posted years ago, I forgot to put in the date ( most probably late 2006/early 2007 ). Perhaps he remembers who he sold them too. I have the following chicks for sale:
Group #1 Ripley/LaBelle stock $3.00 each Hatched on 3/15/06 9 pullets (6 with feather legs) 4 cockerels (2 with feather legs)
Group #2 Ripley/Labelle stock $2.50 each Hatched on 4/3/06 4 pullets (3 with feather legs) 2 cockerels (1 with feather legs)
Group #3 Ripley(Kelly Cratty)Cock & Ripley/Labelle hens $2.50 each Hatched on 4/16/06 16 pullets (13 with feather legs) 2 cockerels
All these are being sold in the designated groups. Shipping or delivery is negotiable. I am located 90 miles Southwest of Atlanta, Ga.(I-85) 90 miles South of Birmingham, AL.(U.S.280) 45 miles East of Montgomery, AL(I-85) Feel free to call 8:00am to 10:00pm CDT any day. I remain, Your Humble & Obed't Serv't Lee Humphrey Notasulga, AL 36866 ( online nickname: hardluckhumphrey )
=====================================
http://hpbaa.com/Marans.html
===================================
http://tinyurl.com/b75yh82 Wow, Fugate is dead, La belle sold his Marans to the US and got out of the breed. Susan Clark sisn't in the breed any longer? Mr. Wilburn is dead. Voices from the past. http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/company?companyId=27902604&targetid=profile
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Fugate eggs: http://www.oocities.org/fang772002/featheredfriends.html
-------------------------------
Shilala is a huge cuckoo fan Each of th strains of cuckoo had their own distinct advantages. He can talk history with you. http://shilala.homestead.com/maran.html
============================
http://www.freewebs.com/shineonfarm/marans.htm I also have Cuckoo that are Fugate and the Ripley. I keep several of each line pure and I also have some that have been crossed.
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Citron_d'uccle Location: Fort Worth, TX Joined: 8/2011 Posts: 123 offline knows where to find these strains: Staffordshire, Fitch, Ripley, Fugate
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#51597 - 11/19/07 06:40 PM Golden Cuckoo Tater Keepers New Egg Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 7 Loc: Arkansas I am on my 4th generation of my fugate cuckoo maran program . I am getting a lot of golden cuckoos.The trait seems to have began as one golden feather on the hackle of the rooster we chose to breed with 4 years ago.Is this a negitive sign of in- breeding or is this sport (golden) just a happy accident.Aprox 40% of the hatch is golden. Thank you for any input
=======================================
LAMARLUVABLES FRENCH BLACK COPPER MARANS,CUCKOO MARANS). http://www.louisianachickens.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=25&id=1402&Itemid=2 ok, here's a clue. Fugate lived in Athens, Tenn., this guy lives in Louisana. Maybe he has FUGATE? Grisham, Fugate & Calicowoods.??
-----------------------------------
http://dallas.listlux.com/a,35,337627,8x7-NEW-Garage-Door--325----325--.htm CUCKOO MARANS: These rare birds are very pretty dark brown egg layers, my stock comes from really nice imported lines including: Staffordshire, Fitch Ripley, and Fugate, (Karen: does she have separate strains or Shilala cuckoos?, something to ask)all the birds are feathered legged. Chicks are $3.00 each All my chickens and guineas are pure-bred, each variety is housed separately
============================================
This closeout sale was 6 years ago. Maybe Vicki has records who she sold the Cratty and Fugate too: http://dallas.listlux.com/a,35,337627,8x7-NEW-Garage-Door--325----325--.htm
=====================================
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/7mFarm-Herbal/message/17180 This was posted 10yrs. ago. She may still have the, I am thinking English/Canadian might be Labelle and/or Ripley
=========
Of everything I have see, I like the Shine On Farms eggs the best. Didn't spend a lot of looking at the birds, tho. always ask for egg shell samples when considering Marans.
----------------------------------
Traincuckoo marans chocolate eggs from pasofinofarm. west bend i am aug compared to barred rock may what. Chocolatethis ... Correctly golden think they were developed in sort that is pure. ... Mix of dark chocolate ripley line of comparison.
---------------------------------------
Well, this is interesting---pure Ripley~~ https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ng-pics-of-your-eggs-chicks-and-chickens/4020 If you approach this person be able to discuss the US Marans history and the role Ripley and his birds played in it. Have a writtem 5 generatpn breeding plan and be able to articulate why and what you are going to do. That you plan to never cross these bids with any other strain/line/breed...and mean it. You will probably only get one chance at them. BTW, I am a huge fan of Kermit's knowledge. So much of it is written down on the defunct namb list at yahoo. How I wish it could be brought over here.

3riverschick thanks for this trip into yesterday ...... fun memories !!!
I visited Mr Wilburn several times and got stock from him each time . His Cuckoo Marans were direct from Fugate (he told me about his visits up to see Mr Fugate) . Mr Wilburn bred for dark-dark Eggs and his Marans were very nice balanced birds . I lost my Cuckoo Marans during a period of illness .
Mr Wilburn shipped some of his best to Susan Clark in southern California . Susan sent me pics of her very dark eggs & birds on occasion (we had planned to exchange birds but ....) . (warning) with age and other problems It's possible that i might have the wrong name on this lady (but i feel confident it was Susan).... She had experienced tragedy in her life .... 'her husband was killed while cycling by a motorist' .
Afterwards I tried several times many years back to find some of the Wilburn Marans bloodline to no avail .
The dark level on the eggs from these clean leg English Cuckoo Marans was equal to what we have today in the BlackCopperMarans .

James Shannon Nelson

 

[3riverschick]

Quote: James,
Read the posts at this URL. ~~ http://tinyurl.com/b75yh82
It gives contact info for folk who got pure Fugate.
the info is several years old. But that is not much in the poultry world. I dug it
up while surfing the "dead Net". Places only archived in internet databases like
oocities and the Wayback Machine. Takes a lot of hours, but I love it. When
you find stuff like this, it makes it worthwhile.
Best,
Karen

 

[3riverschick]

James, sent you a private message.
Best,
Karen

 

[1876 Farm]

Here are two classic plans. Look up "rotational line breeding" and use it for as many generations as you want. Bob Blosl was the late beloved founder of the BYC Heritage Large Fowl thread. A great teacher who loved to teach folk to breed better fowl. Here he is explaining it: http://bloslspoutlryfarm.tripod.com/id60.html
Also look up the plan in Wid Cards' book online at this URL: https://archive.org/details/cu31924003158312
It's another classic breeding plan that can run for more than 5 generations. Wid Card was an elite veteran poultryman ( creator of the White-Laced Red Cornish) one of whose greatest gifts to the poultry world was his ability to make complicated breeding simple to the layperson. He used to go from show to show and sit with folks, explaining the ins and out of successful poultry breeding.
Done correctly and with judicious selection, arguably, neither plan requires outcross blood.
Best Success,
Karen.

Thank you Karen!!

 

[jsdeslidingh]

Is anyone willing to sell hatching eggs still? Please pm me if so...thank you.

 

[ladycat]

Is anyone willing to sell hatching eggs still? Please pm me if so...thank you.

PM'd you.