Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[snowbird]

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Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!
Congratulations! Very pretty egg!
I'm not an expert by any means but will share with you what I see.

Yes yellow legs is something that would be culled for IMO regardless of all other attributes the bird has. IMO this would be a sign of an outcross in the background somewhere and it is showing its reccessive head. The leg colors of Marans can be white/pinkish, lighter blue and a dark slate/charcoal color.

Your rooster has what is referred to as "flame" or "flaming" in his hackles. It happens in the Marans and can be worked with if it is something that a person wants to change. To my knowledge there is no mention of it being a D.Q. if a person wants to show and I do not believe that it is considered a fault either. (Don- aka, snowbird...always has to back me up on this one

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I like your roo overall, I do not see any yellowing in his legs. I like his type. He has a nice chest, good stance, I personally love his copper colors and the balance that he expresses. He has what appears to be a shorter back but it may be how he is standing in the last photo. Also the second photo of him makes him look like he has a little too high of a tail set. Is this the way he normally carries his tail?

Love the type of the second pullet!!!!

Hi Pink, yes the flame in the hackle and saddle is a desired trait in the BC, They have no mention of it in the USA standard but it will be judged as a brown red by the judge. This should of been included in the proposed Standard along with several others items. Don

editedto say, not very long ago I asked Walt about what would happen when the BC was showed with the flame in Hackle and Saddle and he said if it was not in the USA Marans standard it would revert back to the SOP for the Brown Red color. It would of been much easier if these kind of things were spelled out in the standard. Don

 

[pinkchick]

Hi and Thanks Don!
Soooooo, come on tell tell TELL!!! How was the show?

 

[Hens and Roos]

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Morning! Sounds like your dear son has it all worked out! I love how their minds work at this age, smart little whippersnappers aren't they? You tell him I totally agree with his method of thinking!!!!

yes, he is a very independent thinker(thinks independent of us)

 

[n.smithurmond]

"Desired" even? Boy was I off the mark!!

 

[snowbird]

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Kim, everyone always tells me when I do not have something good to say, just do not say anything.

Will say they had 20 total Marans Feather and clean leg together and a cuckoo was best Marans and was clean legged, so this should explain the quality.

 

[Organics North]

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Kim, everyone always tells me when I do not have something good to say, just do not say anything.

Will say they had 20 total Marans Feather and clean leg together and a cuckoo was best Marans and was clean legged, so this should explain the quality.

Any Blues?

Don, I can not speak for others but I do enjoy and appreciate critical opinion...

ON

 

[Chef]

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Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!
Congratulations! Very pretty egg!
I'm not an expert by any means but will share with you what I see.

Yes yellow legs is something that would be culled for IMO regardless of all other attributes the bird has. IMO this would be a sign of an outcross in the background somewhere and it is showing its reccessive head. The leg colors of Marans can be white/pinkish, lighter blue and a dark slate/charcoal color.

Your rooster has what is referred to as "flame" or "flaming" in his hackles. It happens in the Marans and can be worked with if it is something that a person wants to change. To my knowledge there is no mention of it being a D.Q. if a person wants to show and I do not believe that it is considered a fault either. (Don- aka, snowbird...always has to back me up on this one

)

I like your roo overall, I do not see any yellowing in his legs. I like his type. He has a nice chest, good stance, I personally love his copper colors and the balance that he expresses. He has what appears to be a shorter back but it may be how he is standing in the last photo. Also the second photo of him makes him look like he has a little too high of a tail set. Is this the way he normally carries his tail?

Love the type of the second pullet!!!!

x2. He seems to have a slightly high tail set and his comb looks to be touching the back of his head. Maybe a bit U shaped but like pink said it may just be the way he is standing. Good looking bird though

 

[pinkchick]

n.smithurmond :

"Desired" even? Boy was I off the mark!!

Your weren't off the mark at all....I too thought at one time when I first started working with these birds that it was a bad thing, but I believe that is because it is not a trait that is as widely discussed as all other things Marans and a lack of ready information on it.
My personal preference is a male bird that has a bit of "flame" going on as long as it is copper colored/toned and not straw/brassy/yellow.

 

[snowbird]

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Kim, everyone always tells me when I do not have something good to say, just do not say anything.

Will say they had 20 total Marans Feather and clean leg together and a cuckoo was best Marans and was clean legged, so this should explain the quality.

Any Blues?

Don, I can not speak for others but I do enjoy and appreciate critical opinion...

ON

ON, no blue of any kind, the combined cuckoo class was the largest. I would say that at least 12 of the 20 Marans had white feathers, the clean leg Marans were mainly the only ones without the white feathers. The BC were from the same person that had them at this show last year and the two males had mostly white tails and one BC female was wry tail. Most of the feather leg cuckoo had white tail feathers. Some on the mcc site are crying about a clean leg being best Marans, well there is a reason.

We have been over all these faults for a long time and it just seems like no one is listening. Don

 

[Debbi]

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Kim, everyone always tells me when I do not have something good to say, just do not say anything.

Will say they had 20 total Marans Feather and clean leg together and a cuckoo was best Marans and was clean legged, so this should explain the quality.



Well that's scary! I thought they were going to judge the two different types (French and English) seperatley?? Isn't lacking shank feathering a DQ in the "French" birds?? Did you get any pics any way, Don?

In my opinion, if the USA is going to go by the French standard, then they should have feathered shanks/toes. If they don't, leave them out of the show ring and do some breeding to get it, or show your clean legged birds in England!