Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

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Snowbird? What is a wry tail, please?

Sorry to butt in - Wry Tail is when a bird has a tail cocked to the side a little. It is considered a defect.


And on another note, if anyone remembers me, I'm back!!

And my Marans are now laying!!
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Sadly I learned that Wade Jeanne x Bev Davis does NOT mean good color, though. . . Pics coming soon.

One of my pullets lays ooh a 4 on the scale with speckles, the other a 5 or 6. My Bev Davis girls are starting out with 7s or better!
 
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Snowbird? What is a wry tail, please?

Sorry to butt in - Wry Tail is when a bird has a tail cocked to the side a little. It is considered a defect.


And on another note, if anyone remembers me, I'm back!!

And my Marans are now laying!!
celebrate.gif


Sadly I learned that Wade Jeanne x Bev Davis does NOT mean good color, though. . . Pics coming soon.

One of my pullets lays ooh a 4 on the scale with speckles, the other a 5 or 6. My Bev Davis girls are starting out with 7s or better!

Hey Illia! Where've you been? Always nice to see someone back again. How are your birds doing?
 
Riverotter,

Just keep in mind, what was considered a "plump" bird back in the 1800s, would look like a parakeet to us today! Everything now is super-sized. I never had any Delawares, but that may be a breed to check into. One of my all time favs was the good old Barred Rocks. Just keep in mind the feed conversion/time to grow issue. Being a cross between the Delaware and the BR may help that some due to the hybrid vigor. BRs are pretty quick to gain, are nice to look at, and are great layers even in the winter!

Whoever said that about the meaties was right on!
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The poor things are just hideous to me, and if I have to feed it, I have to look at it. If it's not pleasing to my eye, I don't care if it lays golden eggs, it won't be here. Ok, well, maaaaybe if it laid golden eggs!
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You know..I raised them and didn't even eat them. All I could see was the filth that they would lie in all day. 2 of them heart attacks at 8 weeks and the rest went to the butcher after that. I gave them away.

Such a genetically engineered misfit (to me) Sad, sad, sad.

But I Adore my Marans!
 
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Boy oh boy...I learned that EXACT lesson today myself. One of my Maran girls laid her first egg...and I am so disappointed. My 2 pullets are sisters, so I'm not expecting much better when the other one starts laying. I'm so bummed...now I've gotta pretty much start all over. Does anyone have a shoulder I can cry on?
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Thanks, Don. Ive been looking at that tail. I usually carries it just fine; I did notice in these pics it looks a bit wry. Ill check again. Also didnt notice the comb, can you show me what you mean? Im not seeing it (doesnt mean its not there, I just dont know what Im looking at).
 
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You're right Debbi,
In fact, what was a plump bird in the 1940's was pretty scrawny by today's standard of the CX.
I've got some Barred Rocks for layers- they are really pretty. But the young cockerels in my mix aren't particularly fast growing. Actually, in the "heavy male" mix I got, the Red Sex-link males are the beefiest.

A lot of breeds became breeds because they were supposed to be better table birds then what you could commonly pick up at your local farm, or go out to Granny's for. I think we've bred away from that. There are plenty of breeds that still get ginourmous - but they take such an insanely long time to do it! What Lotsapaints said about the 20 to 22 week weights seems like more what I'm guessing the old-timers bred for.
LOL, my mixed "heavies" are about 16 weeks and still really little. I don't think any of them will weigh 4 pounds dressed in another 4 weeks. I've got both Red and Black sex-links, Buff Orps, Barred Rocks and Production Reds.

Now, these are all hatchery birds (the Frypan Special) and hatcheries breed for egg production. Their customers are those looking for backyard layers. Show breeders breed for showing. (no offense, I respect what you do) You don't eat tail set or perfect eye or hackle color.
But if you want meat, you 1)butcher scrawny hatchery birds or your own culls (probably also scrawny - no offense, mine are) 2)Get Cornish X 3)Get Freedom Rangers - who it seems to me don't have all that great a grow out rate, but have excellent marketing.

It seems to me, if you look into the history of a breed, there are many breeds who's spotlight to fame was being an awesome table bird. This is when just a few breeders (sometimes just 1, sometimes a small, regional area) are breeding them. Then they get popular, people stop selling table birds and start selling breeding stock, then a few years later, there's a New awesome table breed. I'm guessing that as soon as you stop culling heavily for a good carcass, and start bringing in any other factors, you immediately start to loose size and/or growth rate.

And I'd like to do an experiment to prove it. I'd like to pick a breed (hmm, Marans, Sussex, Delaware - looking up the history of the Delaware, I may pick an older breed) and see if by making my #1 priority a good carcass at a reasonable age if I'd get a bigger bird then you'd expect. People had to be paying those specialty prices for a reason, don't you think?
 
Hello all! I posted about ten pages back about one of my BCM's not looking like a BCM. Several of you commented that none of my chickens look like BCM's. I wanted to post some clearer pictures and try to get a final answer from all you BCM experts. If they are truly not BCM's then I will probably go back to the guy that charged me $8 a chick and have words.

They are all about 6 weeks old.

Thanks in advance!

Rooster (He has to go anyway, against law in my city)
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Hen 1 with feathered feet
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Hen 2 without feathered feet.
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