Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

Leg color for BBR Malays and Malay bantams is"Swarthy yellow to yellow, yellow preferred" I always selected for bright butter yellow. The large fowl were OK but bantam males started to get a little white frosting on a primary. It spread to where some would have the bottom half very white,not just frosted.Only using males with no white or minimal white didn't help. There was an article in The Poultry Press describing the same problem with Partridge Wyandotte bantam males. Selecting males with even a minimum amount of dusky color on the legs was offered as the solution. It worked on the Malays. Now white in the primaries is very rare. Does the allowable black shading on a Black Leghorn's legs make a difference? I'm not sure if leg shading would help with unwanted white on a white skinned [Marans] male. It may be worth looking into before a decision is made. Tom
There seems to be a connection between leg color and white in males tail feathers. the females in the black and Partridge color don't usually have nice butter yellow colored legs. They are swarthy. The males have the bright yellow legs and if they are black seem to have white in the tail..usually the sickle. I have noted this in black Leghorns and black Rock bantams.

Walt
 
Leg color for BBR Malays and Malay bantams is"Swarthy yellow to yellow, yellow preferred" I always selected for bright butter yellow. The large fowl were OK but bantam males started to get a little white frosting on a primary. It spread to where some would have the bottom half very white,not just frosted.Only using males with no white or minimal white didn't help. There was an article in The Poultry Press describing the same problem with Partridge Wyandotte bantam males. Selecting males with even a minimum amount of dusky color on the legs was offered as the solution. It worked on the Malays. Now white in the primaries is very rare. Does the allowable black shading on a Black Leghorn's legs make a difference? I'm not sure if leg shading would help with unwanted white on a white skinned [Marans] male. It may be worth looking into before a decision is made. Tom
MOST interesting - thanks for posting this! Do you happen to recall, or could you "ballpark" which PP issue that was? I don't recall seeing it but I do have quite a stack that I haven't finished reading yet. Never enough time...what interests me strongly in what you posted above is, "Only using males with no white or minimal white didn't help."
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Thus, it "may" not be as easy as culling those with the white we don't want? I did NOT want to hear this. Sigh.....

BTW, y'all are super duper yacky after COB. Sheesh!
 
Guess I'm dense, Gilavina and Wynette, would you please describe in words what I am looking at/for to make these chicks "penguin chicks"? Thanks.
If you look at a penguin, they have a white chest and belly and most have a white outline around their eyes. That is why we call the chicks penguin chicks. These most often for me have the best coloring in the coppers.
 
Guess I'm dense, Gilavina and Wynette, would you please describe in words what I am looking at/for to make these chicks "penguin chicks"? Thanks.
Same coloring as a penguin. Black on top of head and down the back, white belly....colored like the black & white of a penguin.
 
MOST interesting - thanks for posting this! Do you happen to recall, or could you "ballpark" which PP issue that was? I don't recall seeing it but I do have quite a stack that I haven't finished reading yet. Never enough time...what interests me strongly in what you posted above is, "Only using males with no white or minimal white didn't help."
he.gif
Thus, it "may" not be as easy as culling those with the white we don't want? I did NOT want to hear this. Sigh.....

BTW, y'all are super duper yacky after COB. Sheesh!
COB?
 

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