Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Debbi]

cpartist ,

Pretty girls! Can't see the roo too well. I am having a craving for bllluuueee, and these pics sure didn't help!

 

[cpartist]

Thank you

. These are from the only chick I got to hatch from peachick here on BYC (shipping

).
Pretty sure her stock is from Whitmore Farms. The momma has great lacing, but very little copper coloring.
I've bred her to my BCM with nice copper hackles...and will be working on improving this. Eye color on mama
was very dark forever, then one day, when she was about 8 months old, I noticed that her eyes had finally
lightened...but are still more light brown, lacking the pumpkin. I'm hoping my roo, with his perfect (IMO) eye
color will help with this.

Momma lays a very nice egg, though. (You can see pics by clicking on my website link) and is super productive.
It's kind of a complimentary/compensation for conformation breeding, while maintaining/improving egg color...
this whole Marans breeding thing. I'm actually loving the challenges

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[southpaw52]

Geebs, we're just outside of Portland. In Clackamas county, but just barely. Enough that I can have some hens and a roo!! (or two). Where are you? I don't know yet about the swap. Lot's going on, would like to go, but can't commit yet. Asfor this rain....I asked hubby not to deflate the float tubes yet. Not for fishing, but we don;t have a boat and this rain makes me think we may need them. We are too busy building coops to work on an ark!! :")

Southpaw

 

[Lotsapaints]

I am getting eggs from 2 Black Coppers well one looks black is from a hatch of Blue Coppers the other one is a little mossy both hatched the end of April....

Here is the "plum" colored one it has the extra coating of calcium on it the giant egg is a Partridge Rocks and it wasn't a double yolker either
the center egg is a chocolate Delaware egg with purple spots

This one is from the Mossy gal her giant egg 2 1/2 inches long 5 1/4 around is in the middle showing you eggs from 2 of the Cuckoos
who lay the darkest eggs from that bunch and I have several Delawares that lay a chocolate milk colored egg
I wonder how long it will take her to lay again?

One thing fore sure feeding those sprouts has sure made my eggs bigger and that one hen hasn't laid an egg since but I did move her to another pen

 

[flgardengirl]

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The wheaten male should have a gray undercolor, but the undercolor in most APA standards is not a cause for great concern. The cotton fluff at the base of the tail would be more of a fault. When drawing up the Proposed Standard for wheaten the promoting group could write it up with anything they like if they want. I would kinda like to see the cotton tail fluff left as acceptable but do not have a say in any of this. I should also say that breeding a male with the light gray undercolor will produce female with more surface color on the back and really help with female color.

Thank you for your insight. I went out and checked under all 3 of my wheaten males. They all have dark grey to black fluff underneath their bellies and shanks but the fluff under the tail feathers is white like all the other pics I've seen.. I was just wondering if perhaps this would be another difference between the black copper and wheaten males besides the brownish wing triangle.
My poor wheaten guys are still growing thier tail feathers back from when they got pulled and eaten by the mean girl hen lol.

txmel: Nice bator..your dh did a good job. Good luck on your hatch

cpartist: Those are pretty girls you have there. Your blue hens have nice lacing.

 

[snowbird]

Quote:
The wheaten male should have a gray undercolor, but the undercolor in most APA standards is not a cause for great concern. The cotton fluff at the base of the tail would be more of a fault. When drawing up the Proposed Standard for wheaten the promoting group could write it up with anything they like if they want. I would kinda like to see the cotton tail fluff left as acceptable but do not have a say in any of this. I should also say that breeding a male with the light gray undercolor will produce female with more surface color on the back and really help with female color.

Thank you for your insight. I went out and checked under all 3 of my wheaten males. They all have dark grey to black fluff underneath their bellies and shanks but the fluff under the tail feathers is white like all the other pics I've seen.. I was just wondering if perhaps this would be another difference between the black copper and wheaten males besides the brownish wing triangle.
My poor wheaten guys are still growing thier tail feathers back from when they got pulled and eaten by the mean girl hen lol.

txmel: Nice bator..your dh did a good job. Good luck on your hatch

cpartist: Those are pretty girls you have there. Your blue hens have nice lacing.

On this site I see BC with the white fluff at the base of the tail and most of the Wheaten. There is nothing against any of this in the proposed standards. I cull all BC with any white except on the feet. From what I see in my 3 month BC I believe it is working. I have over 100 in this group and no white feathers. I guess only time will tell. When I go into complete single matings this fall it will be much easier to cull the fowl that produces any white feathers.

 

[flgardengirl]

I guess I am lucky, so far, all my black coppers have only black fluff under thier feathers. The wheatens different story....I went to some different sites looking at wheaten males to see if I could see any white fluff in the tail. At the Marans of America Club the photos don't show it but if you click on the video 'Wheaten Marans in Natural Setting' , sure enough the roo does seem to have the white fluff in his tail.
http://maransofamericaclub.com/Wheatens-Marans.php

 

[flgardengirl]

Found a few more off this site that show wheatens from the Teasdale and Cottage Hill lines. They are small photos but it really does look like there may be some white fluff in the tails of the roos. Click on the links of the photos of the wheatens from these two lines. If so many wheatens have this I wonder 1) if it should be bred out. 2) where would one get any that don't have it lol?
http://www.hpbaa.com/Marans_History___Lineage.html

 

[berkeleysprings]

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[Debbi]

{ I cull all BC with any white except on the feet. From what I see in my 3 month BC I believe it is working. I have over 100 in this group and no white feathers. I guess only time will tell. When I go into complete single matings this fall it will be much easier to cull the fowl that produces any white feathers.}


Don,

When you say "no white feathers", does that include no white juvenile feathers??