Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

Last winter I hatched a bunch of blues, blue coppers and black coppers very close on the hatchdates. I had two blues (Achilles my super dark blue copper) and one that turned out to be a pullet that hatched out dark black. I really thought they were black until they got much older then they were obviously dark blue. Sometimes the dark blues can fool you for a while.

I have only had one bcm male with a brown spot on his head when he was a chick and he was very mossy when he got older. I have heard some moult out maybe due to different the lines or something?
 
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They are adorable babies! Thank you for sharing them. I only see one for sure blue at this time and possibly another that is very dark blue, we just need to give them a little more time. They are great and you did get wonderful photos of them.
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... there it is the official Blue scope through which all blue birds should be viewed (pink) has chimed in!!! yay... 2 blue ones from the bluehound herself... Well doesn't that beat all.... Lucky Ducky.. Those dark blue chicks are going to be spectacular... I love the ones with the darkest lacing...
 
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Yep, they can fool ya alright and it can take a couple 2 or 3 months or even longer. I thought Bill was black for 4 months....but then I started to see lacing, then I didn't believe my eyes, I kept telling myself for 2 months that I was seeing things and he was black, so I posted a photo of him on the previous Marans thread and asked the experts. When he was six months old I test mated him over a Barred Rock hen and sure enough I got blue babies. They can be very tricky those dark dark blues.
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There are two ways a leg is colored. The skin on the outside, and then the deeper skin tissue can also be colored.
White and Yellow are on the outside. White is dominant and can hide Yellow genes.
Any whiteshanked siblings of chicks with yellow legs can carry yellow into your next generation.
In order for a chick to show yellow legs, BOTH parents had to carry the yellow. In that pairing, one in four will be yellow, two will carry, and one will be pure white.

The dermal melanin under the skin gives a bluish color.
White + dermal melanin gives us slate or blue legs
Yellow+ dermal melanin gives greenish or Willow legs.

There is a gene that inhibits dermal melanin in birds that would otherwise have dark legs. (our lightshanked BCM)
It is a sex-linked gene. Roos can have two, Hens only one. That is why BCM hens can have darker shanks than their male counterparts. Two copies of the ID gene is like barring, or blue, it lightens more than one copy.

Don't want to open a can of worms with this one, since I know the French and proposed U.S. standard are different on shank color.
But if you have a hen with dark shanks, because it is sex-linked, most likely her father was also dark shanked, or at least only carried one copy.
Sex linked genes are always passed from Father to daughter.
Seems like it should be pretty easy to breed for light shanks, or at least maintain them. Locating the birds with the missing ID genes shouldn't be that hard.

Most hens with yellow legs will gradually lose the yellow as they near their molt. They can appear almost white. But after molt they are usually once again yellow.
 
Morning ladies and gentlemen!!!

Thanks! I love dem blue chickies Jan!!!!!!!
 
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Do you hatch FBCM's eggs the same as other eggs, I talked to someone and was told that the shells are harder for chicks to get thru? I have some in the bator now and was wondering if I need to do anything different.
 

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