Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[gilavina]

seabreeze...as soon as I get a bit of dinner, I'll try to get a few shots of my oldest chicks from this season's first hatch for ya...they are still getting some feathering in, but they are doing really well....they are livewires too, so we'll see how well this goes...

 

[gilavina]

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Thanks Ivy...I do love my crazy spotted newfie boy...he's huge now, fluffy as anything and not even a year old yet....
I only hope this goodball will turn out to be half the guardian dog that yours and seabreeze's are...
I'm really hoping that Bev will stop by again and post some pics of her silver blue duckwing cockerels and answer some of the questions people had for her. I'm so thankful she is willing to share her new color projects with us all. They are beautiful

 

[gilavina]

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Hey Bev,

in that photo of the girl's snacking together...the one on the left hand side, can you tell me more about it? I am very interested in that coloring...particularly that it is lighter than the others in the photo. Does the breast also have that rich salmon coloring, or is it lighter as well? I guess basically what do you like about her and what do you wish was different? I'm trying to learn about the coloring and it development and pitfalls and such...but finding info has been hard to come by.
thank you for taking the time to help us all learn and grow in our Marans knowledge. I really appreciate it.

 

[math ace]

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Let me see how to put this delicately - - -

"What you have outside you counts less than what you have inside you" B C FORBES

See is a REAL PRINCESS inside . . . Gentle, Sweet and Smart!

 

[Ivywoods]

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Let me see how to put this delicately - - -

"What you have outside you counts less than what you have inside you" B C FORBES

See is a REAL PRINCESS inside . . . Gentle, Sweet and Smart!

Guess not all princesses like having a manicure.

 

[gilavina]

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Alrighty, here is a couple of snapshots of a few of the blues I hatched out three weeks ago yesterday...The featherin on the legs of two of them is light...the third one has a feather here and there very sparsely. I didn't think it was too bad coming from clean legged mommas with an average feathered cockerel...still something to work on of course. Now the question is...will they give me my birchen coloring or decide to stay solid blue...

when I was taking the picture I felt like the one on the left was staring me down like a vulture....they really, really like their treats

I'm happy to see some nice lacing of dark blue coming in on their feathers so far. The pic doesn't do the lacing justice where the chick had just fluffed their feathers, but it at least gives an idea

 

[seabreeze]

Hmmm......I went and read the French Maran standard, read the proposed American club standard, looked at the DQs and faults for both. I was told the side sprig is a DQ. OK, I can accept that but where?? Then it was mentioned in the APA SOP. HUH??? I know the APA is for all the chicken breeds, like AKC is for dogs or not as close but somewhat similar, USEF (United States Equestrian Federation) for horse events which does include conformation competitions etc., and the CFA for cat competitions.

OK, APA is the umbrella organization for all poultry breeds, yes? But how does APA dictate a breed club's breed standard? AKC doesn't, CFA doesn't, USEF doesn't, the individual breed club dictates the standard, what are considered faults and what are considered DQs. So now I'm even more confused since I cannot find the operating statement for APA that their SOP has standard DQs across the board for any breed.

I'm all prepared to *plate* my roo for his bump called a side sprig, but I'm not going to blindly do so until I am fully educated as to where these DQs are located and how they apply to a chicken breed club's standard. Also, why aren't the APA's DQs automatically written into each breed club's standard if APA's SOP on DQs is the final word?

I'm not asking to be flamed, I am asking for direction and education, thank you.

 

[seabreeze]

Oh Gilavina!! Those are beautiful chicks!! I can't wait to see pics of them growing up....OOOO LA LA!!!

 

[gilavina]

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I've never thought about it, but I suppose it would be confusing at first to understand. I really hope that one of the APA judges will stop by that frequent this thread and explain it much clearer than I can.

There are disqualifications that are specific to each breed indeed...and then there are general disqualifications (listed in the first section of the APA Standard that apply to all breeds). Some of these include comb issues such as side sprigs, split tails, split wings, squirrel tails, slipped wings, wry tail and etc. Most of the time in an individual breeds standard they don't repeat what the APA lists as general disqualifications, rather they list those disqualifications specific to that breed and color variety and the add (See General Disqualifications and Cutting for Defects).

 

[Ivywoods]

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I've never thought about it, but I suppose it would be confusing at first to understand. I really hope that one of the APA judges will stop by that frequent this thread and explain it much clearer than I can.

There are disqualifications that are specific to each breed indeed...and then there are general disqualifications (listed in the first section of the APA Standard that apply to all breeds). Some of these include comb issues such as side sprigs, split tails, split wings, squirrel tails, slipped wings, wry tail and etc. Most of the time in an individual breeds standard they don't repeat what the APA lists as general disqualifications, rather they list those disqualifications specific to that breed and color variety and the add (See General Disqualifications and Cutting for Defects).

Gilavine-That makes sense to me.

I am wondering with the recommendation that BCM's be an accepted APA variety, will they be in the "Continental" class? I'm assuming that is where they would belong, but I'm not sure.