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Hey all , dose the roo or the hen pass on the color and quality of the egg gene, with BCM ? Or is it a combination of the 2 , or just pure luck if ya get one that lays dark brown eggs?
Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!
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Hummm....I think there is a thread on here about that CL ad. Here it is https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=478780 Is this familiar?
I don't know about the feathered shanks...it is a dominant gene so it would have taken a lot of work to intentionally breed it out. If the seller is the same as the link above I would pass. I don't think that egg color would even count as a #4.
Hummm....I think there is a thread on here about that CL ad. Here it is https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=478780 Is this familiar?
I don't know about the feathered shanks...it is a dominant gene so it would have taken a lot of work to intentionally breed it out. If the seller is the same as the link above I would pass. I don't think that egg color would even count as a #4.
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They both do have little combs but sometimes the combs can fool you. Be on the lookout for red wattles starting or the comb pinking up early on. Kinda hard to tell for sure at that age. I have one little blue birchen chick. Looks sorta like yours but less comb (practically none) she is prob @ 2 1/2 weeks or so.
Mine is clean shanked as well.
I have 8 more birchen eggs in the bator, wish me better luck this time lol. I just need at least one more that is a roo
Who has silver cuckoo Marans with no gold leakage and feathered shanks? Anyone know? I wanna get some eggs...
way to go on another round of hatching birchen eggs!....when did you set them? i should be setting two dozen in the next few days....we'll see how it goes this time around...ive had predator troubles this year and ive lost some of my stock, so im hoping to get a good go round on hatching out some replacements.
They both do have little combs but sometimes the combs can fool you. Be on the lookout for red wattles starting or the comb pinking up early on. Kinda hard to tell for sure at that age. I have one little blue birchen chick. Looks sorta like yours but less comb (practically none) she is prob @ 2 1/2 weeks or so.
Mine is clean shanked as well.
I have 8 more birchen eggs in the bator, wish me better luck this time lol. I just need at least one more that is a roo
Who has silver cuckoo Marans with no gold leakage and feathered shanks? Anyone know? I wanna get some eggs...
way to go on another round of hatching birchen eggs!....when did you set them? i should be setting two dozen in the next few days....we'll see how it goes this time around...ive had predator troubles this year and ive lost some of my stock, so im hoping to get a good go round on hatching out some replacements.
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The question you should ask is . . . "Did they get their stock directly from Bev Davis or Wade Jean?".
Once a person sells their stock to someone else and that person breeds and sells them to someone else and that person breeds and sells to someone else. ... . well lots of things can happen if culling practices aren't maintained.
It doesn't change where the birds orginally came from. . . . .
Each breeders birds demonstrate certain characteristics. Each breeder determines what is important to them in their breeding program / goals. For example, MAYBE this person was concentrating on COMBS and not leg feathering. . . . In the nature of breeding, one genreation will be different from the next. . . . That is why IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL BREEDER THAT THE STOCK IS. . .
If the marans are many generations away from the breeder it DOES NOT MEAN they are not pure. It does indicate that they will not be the same as they were if you had got them from the original breeder. . . . They could be better or they could be worse.
Hope this helps you out . . . .
The question you should ask is . . . "Did they get their stock directly from Bev Davis or Wade Jean?".
Once a person sells their stock to someone else and that person breeds and sells them to someone else and that person breeds and sells to someone else. ... . well lots of things can happen if culling practices aren't maintained.
It doesn't change where the birds orginally came from. . . . .
Each breeders birds demonstrate certain characteristics. Each breeder determines what is important to them in their breeding program / goals. For example, MAYBE this person was concentrating on COMBS and not leg feathering. . . . In the nature of breeding, one genreation will be different from the next. . . . That is why IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL BREEDER THAT THE STOCK IS. . .
If the marans are many generations away from the breeder it DOES NOT MEAN they are not pure. It does indicate that they will not be the same as they were if you had got them from the original breeder. . . . They could be better or they could be worse.
Hope this helps you out . . . .
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The question you should ask is . . . "Did they get their stock directly from Bev Davis or Wade Jean?".
Once a person sells their stock to someone else and that person breeds and sells them to someone else and that person breeds and sells to someone else. ... . well lots of things can happen if culling practices aren't maintained.
It doesn't change where the birds orginally came from. . . . .
Each breeders birds demonstrate certain characteristics. Each breeder determines what is important to them in their breeding program / goals. For example, MAYBE this person was concentrating on COMBS and not leg feathering. . . . In the nature of breeding, one genreation will be different from the next. . . . That is why IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL BREEDER THAT THE STOCK IS. . .
If the marans are many generations away from the breeder it DOES NOT MEAN they are not pure. It does indicate that they will not be the same as they were if you had got them from the original breeder. . . . They could be better or they could be worse.
Hope this helps you out . . . .
Here's another variable to throw in -- does "from ___'s stock" mean that ALL the parents/grandparents/great-grandparents/etc are from those breeders' stocks? If this person got ONE bird from each breeder, and those birds were culls, and then he bred them to whatever he had, does that still qualify as "from stock from Bev Davis and Wade Jean C1"? Just something to think about.
Some people say I'm picky. I say "yes, I'm Always Noticing Another Loophole." (hehehe)
ETA...funny...I didn't think THAT word would be edited automatically to "picky." Now my joke is not nearly as mildly funny as I intended.
The question you should ask is . . . "Did they get their stock directly from Bev Davis or Wade Jean?".
Once a person sells their stock to someone else and that person breeds and sells them to someone else and that person breeds and sells to someone else. ... . well lots of things can happen if culling practices aren't maintained.
It doesn't change where the birds orginally came from. . . . .
Each breeders birds demonstrate certain characteristics. Each breeder determines what is important to them in their breeding program / goals. For example, MAYBE this person was concentrating on COMBS and not leg feathering. . . . In the nature of breeding, one genreation will be different from the next. . . . That is why IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL BREEDER THAT THE STOCK IS. . .
If the marans are many generations away from the breeder it DOES NOT MEAN they are not pure. It does indicate that they will not be the same as they were if you had got them from the original breeder. . . . They could be better or they could be worse.
Hope this helps you out . . . .
Here's another variable to throw in -- does "from ___'s stock" mean that ALL the parents/grandparents/great-grandparents/etc are from those breeders' stocks? If this person got ONE bird from each breeder, and those birds were culls, and then he bred them to whatever he had, does that still qualify as "from stock from Bev Davis and Wade Jean C1"? Just something to think about.
Some people say I'm picky. I say "yes, I'm Always Noticing Another Loophole." (hehehe)
ETA...funny...I didn't think THAT word would be edited automatically to "picky." Now my joke is not nearly as mildly funny as I intended.
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gilavina, I set them on the 3rd. The guy we got the original ones from thought his fertility was low due to the weather and the fact that his hens were just starting to lay again and replaced the eggs free
How cool is that? He also threw in 4 English white orps, and a few blue wyandotte eggs since he only had 8 birchen. He just has a small flock of birchens so he doesn't get a ton of eggs yet. I will be happy if just a few of the birchens hatch, at least one roo lol. Then I'll have a pair. I am so in love with how the blue birchens look.
Sorry to hear about your predator problems. I hope you get lots of birchen babies!!!
Sorry to hear about your predator problems. I hope you get lots of birchen babies!!!
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Egg color is contributed by both male and female. Not all birds will lay the same color egg everyday. They should lay with consistency but their eggs can vary. It helps to maintain egg color in generations to come by choosing males that hatched from dark eggs and females that hatch from dark eggs and using them in your breeding program.
Egg color is contributed by both male and female. Not all birds will lay the same color egg everyday. They should lay with consistency but their eggs can vary. It helps to maintain egg color in generations to come by choosing males that hatched from dark eggs and females that hatch from dark eggs and using them in your breeding program.
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Yes, they would still be pure Marans even though "so and so lines" are crossed and if they are the same color variety of the breed or color varieties that are for lack of a better word "interchangeable" (spelling? sorry) and when ran together in the same pen produce pure offspring such as Blue, Black and Splash varieties.
Both lines are good and it's not the "lines" that are producing the clean legged birds it's the genetics of the individual bird and how it expresses upon hatch. There are 3 feather legged genes.....2 are dominant and 1 is reccessive so from time to time a clean legged bird CAN be produced from the matings of 2 feather legged birds regardless of whose line the birds are. Hope this helps!
Yes, they would still be pure Marans even though "so and so lines" are crossed and if they are the same color variety of the breed or color varieties that are for lack of a better word "interchangeable" (spelling? sorry) and when ran together in the same pen produce pure offspring such as Blue, Black and Splash varieties.
Both lines are good and it's not the "lines" that are producing the clean legged birds it's the genetics of the individual bird and how it expresses upon hatch. There are 3 feather legged genes.....2 are dominant and 1 is reccessive so from time to time a clean legged bird CAN be produced from the matings of 2 feather legged birds regardless of whose line the birds are. Hope this helps!
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Nice!! That sounds like an awesome batch of eggs to have hatching and free replacements no less! I would love to see pics of the blue birchens of course, but also would love to see some of the white orps and the blue wyandottes when they hatch and grow.
I've got the predator problems covered me thinks...set a few traps and battened down the hatches on the pens at night...and no problems since!
Got any other blue Marans color varieties cooking over there?
Nice!! That sounds like an awesome batch of eggs to have hatching and free replacements no less! I would love to see pics of the blue birchens of course, but also would love to see some of the white orps and the blue wyandottes when they hatch and grow.
I've got the predator problems covered me thinks...set a few traps and battened down the hatches on the pens at night...and no problems since!
Got any other blue Marans color varieties cooking over there?
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