Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Mountain Mel]

I have lots & lotsa Splash Marans!

Got em' from Pinkchick!

Yep, it's still great to be her neighbor!

 

[math ace]

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I am strictly a Black copper marans girl. I ignore all other varities unless they have something to do with the BCM.
You KNOW my head is exploding with just BCM, Delaware and Speckled Sussex. . . . This NO ROOM left for additional colors . ..

So reading between the lines - - - the answer to the question would be that all variations are allowed because no standard is likely to be proposed for them . . . . .

 

[math ace]

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Don is so SERIOUS with his joking and I am so literal or LINEAR ( as in point A to point B) that I almost miss his funnies .. .
BUT he does let the jokes fly every once in a while . . .

Laying deep within Don is a comedian just dying to escape. . . . . .

 

[loprettaerin]

I found a good site that explained allot about eggs and hatching issues also found my issue on there with this last batch of chicks. Pretty intresting. vitamian issue with parent stock they say who knows.

61.
Sign: Swollen head and back of neck (exudative diathesis - increased capillary permeability). Causes:

62.1.
Nutritional deficiencies -- vitamin E or selenium.


http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/aa204

 

[math ace]

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Alright disclaimer - - -
When trying to compare the roosters, it is best if they are shot in natural sunlight. If there are shadows at work. . . they can hide faults or color. Also, you want to try to get shots when the birds are not moving. When they are moving (besides blurring the pictures ) it can affect their stance. . . . If you catch the bird in the middle of a step, then he could be leaning to one side etc. . .

So, that is why I did not comment the first time you requested an opinion. I will see what I can tell you on your boys and have reposted the pictures in case someone else wants to join in.

#1 cockerel

Looking real dark . . . .
Comb is short
Leg feathering is nice and black
Back is long
Tail angle is like at 0.. .. What is his normal tail angle ?


#2 cockerel

No Opinion On Color- - Three different shots and three different lighting settings.

Comb is longer with too many points
Leg feathering looks more gray than black
Back looks nice.
Tail angle looks like 45 degrees.

#3 cockerel

This guy is hard to evaluate too. . . .

His color appears better than the others, but this could just be the lighting . . . He doesn't look as dark.

However, his eyes are still looking DARK.

His leg feathering looks black
Back looks good, but he was moving.
The same is true with his tail angle - - looks good, but he was moving

 

[snowbird]

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Alright disclaimer - - -
When trying to compare the roosters, it is best if they are shot in natural sunlight. If there are shadows at work. . . they can hide faults or color. Also, you want to try to get shots when the birds are not moving. When they are moving (besides blurring the pictures ) it can affect their stance. . . . If you catch the bird in the middle of a step, then he could be leaning to one side etc. . .

So, that is why I did not comment the first time you requested an opinion. I will see what I can tell you on your boys and have reposted the pictures in case someone else wants to join in.

#1 cockerel

Looking real dark . . . .
Comb is short
Leg feathering is nice and black
Back is long
Tail angle is like at 0.. .. What is his normal tail angle ?


#2 cockerel

No Opinion On Color- - Three different shots and three different lighting settings.

Comb is longer with too many points
Leg feathering looks more gray than black
Back looks nice.
Tail angle looks like 45 degrees.

#3 cockerel

#1 bad comb, might have a roach back

#2 bad comb, wry tail

#3 appears to have white undercolor in the hackle feathers

Not to be mean but all three should be culled.

 

[math ace]

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So, Cadeau if you are looking at your birds and NOT SEEING what Don is seeing. . . . Repost with better pictures.

When birds are moving or standing funny things can appear like they are not. . . .

I agree with Don, If YOU see a roach back or a wry tail - - - BOTH are issues to cull for.

The white undercolor in the hackle feathers is a FAULT. . . . but it does lend itself to white feathers in the wings and tails and they are DQ's.
Your boys may not have done their Juvie molt yet and you do not want to cull for the color issue until after that. . . .
But a Juvie molt will not fix a roah back or a wry tail issue.

Observe your boys in their NATURAL stance and see what you see.

 

[Cadeau]

Thanks Math and Snowbird!

Am I closer to preferred:
wideness of the topline
length of back
with these guys, as compared to my big roo?


These guys are just beginning their juvie molt - just starting to discard wing feathers and some body feathering.

#1 is looowwww on the ranking...I really think he keeps tail low, never crows, etc. to keep out of trouble!
Will be interesting to see how he develops when I take #2 (the boss) out of the pen!

#2 yes, the tail has become increasingly held to the side - what causes that? He wasn't that way before, but also didn't have a lot of tail before!

#3 no white undercolor - been watching!
You're either seeing pinfeathers or yougurt from lunch!

Question:
Will the hackles, that are coming in now, molt in the juvie molt or are they for adult color?

Where, on a chicken's back, do you see a roach?
Is it just the back rising, rather than falling in a shallow U or is it in specific place on the back?

 

[snowbird]

Cadeau, The roach or hump back is structural and down the middle of from front to tail. All of these males seems to have nice long backs from what I can see. I like their feet feathering .The hackles that are coming in now will be there until his first adult molt.

 

[math ace]

I think a Roach back is an n, a hump, NOT an u . . . .