Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

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Debbi~

I believe "gene stacking" is when a trait/s is singled out and controlled on purpose.....like if I want chickens that have pink toe nails and I want to produce more, I would breed that bird with another bird that had pink toenails and continue to single out all birds with pink toe nails and continue to cross and breed until I got to 100% homozygous pink toe nailed birds.
Genetically modified seeds are "stacked" so that they will produce on a regular basis the trait that is desired, genetically modified corn will produce 3 ears of corn at one leaf node.........regular corn should only produce 1 ear of corn per node, this trait in GM corn is perpetuated so that the plant bares more fruit vs. less producing heirloom corn.

I can't get started on GMO's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If I am wrong I hope someone comes by to correct me and gives you the correct answer.

Google "gene stacking" and see what comes up.

Well, this is kind of what I thought. In my opinion, this started by way of gene stacking, whether intentionally or unknowingly. Shall we say, a "project" run amuck?? There has been several, (and here I use the term very loosely), breeders, that obviously have quite a bit of inbreeding (as in siblings) going on for sometime. I'm still leaning towards my own theory: 1) Gene stacking is involved, 2) these genes are dominant. I am NO kind of genetic guru or anything else, but unless you have the problem right before your eyes, the genetics you have in mind may just be a theory too. Right now, as far as I can tell, all any of us can do is to guess, and try to test mate as many birds as we can. If any of the genetic experts would like one, or several of my birds to do some testing with, they are more than welcome to them!!!
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I have my own crop to work with but thanks for offering to share
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Happy birthday Pink have a great day. I hatched 7 splash babies from a hen who lays "uber" darkies and a normal upright smallish comb to my cock that only has 4 points and 3 blues from 10 eggs I set about 2 weeks of gathering so it's a wonderful hatch rate. My camera says the card is full so I need to change it as no way it can be full but I will try and get some pictures. My new portable house is ready to go so I can test hatch brother to sisters before I hatch father to daughters as per Randy's advise.

Old timer breeders would never mix lines up unless they had to I think we are all seeing why and keep in your heads that some of those beautiful birds that people show have 20+ years of breeding by the same person and they still have culls and they started from SOP stock too and figure from every 10 chicks they will only keep one to breed with.

It's my anniversary today my poor husband has been putting up with my "animals" for 24 years...and never thought he'd have chicks in the house either.

HAPPY NEW YEARS
 
Interesting little blurb.............................

From Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry Breeds (note.....I take alot of what is stated in this particular book with a grain of salt as I have found some discrepencies when reading about the different breeds and the information provided).............

Page 67 under Penedesenca Facts:

"Comb, Wattles and Earlobes"

"Unusual comb that begins like a large single but has multiple lobes at the rear; referred to in Spain as the "king's comb" or "carnation comb."
Comb stands upright in the males; droops to the side in females."

When I look at the photo of the Penedesenca male they have photo'd in the upper left corner of page 66 (only referencing the page in case someone else has the book and they want to look it up) ......I see the same EXACT comb that I had on the one that grew out to 5-6 months. First clear photo of another comb that I have seen that matches the combs I have here.




On another note.....I also remember reading somewhere (I believe over at the coop....or on an article I googled about Penedesenca comb genetics) that what we perceive as a regular normal looking single comb without the bi-lateral side sprigs happens in that breed and that the bi-lateral sprigs are specifically desired and need to be bred and selected for just as we are breeding and selecting for the normal single comb without them.




Basically I am just typing and thinking out loud........................................somebody stop me anytime.
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Thanks for the b-day wishes everyone!


Happy New Year to all!

Happy Anniversary Denny!
 
From Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry Breeds (note.....I take alot of what is stated in this particular book with a grain of salt as I have found some discrepencies when reading about the different breeds and the information provided).............

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I agree.
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I picked this book up to browse while visiting B&N one day. Gave up in digust
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when I went thru the photo section. The photos did not match the descriptions unde the breed names.
Oh well, there's always feathersite, smile.
Happy New Year,
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Karen
 
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I'll peek over at your birds again here in a bit, I looked at them the other day, but with everything going on around here lately, I would have to see them again to remember what I thought of them. I think I just need a nap and a half!
 

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