Michigan

[babigyrl22]

babigyrl22 - I have no idea what I am going to do with all these. Just couldn't pass it up. My son wants a few of them. I might raise the Isa's and BSL's to replace some of my laying flock that are older plus I am getting rid of all my EE's seeing I can't sell their eggs. Other than that-who knows LOL

Why can't you sell your EE eggs?

 

[babigyrl22]

X 2 Olive. I am right there with you.

x3 Agreed.

 

[RBahmer]

Why can't you sell your EE eggs?

Nobody will buy them for some reason. I have a guy that buys every brown egg I have but will not buy my white ones or green/blue ones.

 

[swampducks]

LOL I'd better get a map. I may have heard of Albion and Charlotte. In fact I think we drove past Charlotte on our way home from Kalamazoo a couple weeks ago. Definitely a 3 hour drive.

I live west of Duck Lake. I am centrally located between Charlotte, Marshall, Eaton Rapids, Albion, and Springport.

 

[chicken grandma]

I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone on this thread who makes it their mission to be the next Food, Inc. I hope you're putting your money where your mouth is. Farmers are running businesses. Don't like the way the business is run? Don't buy its products. Support the farmers who are doing it the way you'd like it done or they can't keep doing what they're doing.

Olive where do we look for grass fed meat and eggs? Do you like Heffron Farms? Health Food stores eggs? Is there a web site that lists farms by area? Thank you.

 

[Olive Hill]

For those that don't have geese. Now this'll make an OMELET!

Goose egg on the right, large to extra-large chicken egg on the left.

 

[swampducks]

Probably thinks they've got gangrene or something.

People are weird. I've noticed this before.

Nobody will buy them for some reason. I have a guy that buys every brown egg I have but will not buy my white ones or green/blue ones.

 

[Olive Hill]

Olive where do we look for grass fed meat and eggs? Do you like Heffron Farms? Health Food stores eggs? Is there a web site that lists farms by area? Thank you.

Search localharvest.org, frequent local farmers markets, ask at local feed stores and look at their bulletin boards if they have them. The ALBC recently added a search feature on their website of people raising heritage breed and rare animals. You can always try breeders of certain types of animals and see if they sell meat from them. I can't endorse any one other farm, but I can tell you to do your research about what you want in your food and then ask farmers how they're raising them and make those choices for yourself. Remember not to get caught up in the buzz-word; find out what it means and go from there. For instance, "grass-fed" is a loaded term itself. Many animals weren't intended to be grass-fed. It goes along the lines of "vegetarian"-fed chickens. WHAT?! Chickens are naturally omnivores, don't fall for that stuff. Find farmers who KNOW what they're talking about and do your research so that you can tell when they're bluffing. That's the best thing you can do for the future of ag; choose a farmer who's honest enough and knows enough to be able to tell you why things are done the way they are on different types of farms.

 

[chicken grandma]

Here is how the Vet, Dr. Mick Fulton recommended that we use MEDICATED chick starter.

Use it for 6 weeks as the only food.
Week 7 use it as 3/4 of the feed and 1/4 non medicated. Then the chicken can start to develop antibodies to the coccidia that it encounters in the environment.
Week 8 use 1/2 medicated and 1/2 non medicated chick starter.
Week 9 use 1/4 medicated and 3/4 non medicated chick starter
Week 10 use all non medicated feed.

I have just always switched them from one to the other without making it a gradual process. The gradual transition to non medicated feed is what makes it possible for the chicken to build the antibodies.

THERE IS NO ANTIBIOTIC IN MEDICATED CHICK FEED. It is Amprolium and that is a vitamin blocker/ an enzyme which does not allow the cocci to grow. Antibiotics destroy the walls of cells. Amprolium does not do that.

JUISE- you can use the coccidia vaccine and still call your chicks and eggs organic.
NOVA- If Corid is Amprolium then it would be a good enzyme to use to treat coccidia but not a good thing to give for other infections since it is not a real antibiotic.

 

[Olive Hill]

you can use the 'medicated' chick feed and still be an organic farm

Is that what they said at the workshop?

It's been a while since I scanned the NOP list of substances, but I don't recall Amprolium being approved. It is synthetic, isn't it?