Mildred and Bumblefoot

So just and update on Mildred. Checked her foot last night. Finally. (And still....keep waiting for that scab to show up again!) No sign of Bumblefoot! Yay! Thank you to all that helped. At least we know it can be defeated with a little luck, a little antibiotic, a willing duck (she was such a good girl!), a lot of input from others, and a stubborn human!
 
So just and update on Mildred. Checked her foot last night. Finally. (And still....keep waiting for that scab to show up again!) No sign of Bumblefoot! Yay! Thank you to all that helped. At least we know it can be defeated with a little luck, a little antibiotic, a willing duck (she was such a good girl!), a lot of input from others, and a stubborn human!

Best news I've heard all day.
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Thanks loads for the update! I think of Mildred every day, since I myself, have a mild case of bumblefoot.

When the antibiotic ointment alone did not seem to help much, I switched to a potato bandage, which helped, then I decided to try an epsom salts/comfrey/olive oil/beeswax poultice. Yesterday was the first day, the pain was significantly reduced by yesterday evening, this morning even better, so I am doing it again today.

So, back to Mildred.

So proud of both of you, and grateful to all who helped. This was one for the books, if you ask me.
 
So just and update on Mildred. Checked her foot last night. Finally. (And still....keep waiting for that scab to show up again!) No sign of Bumblefoot! Yay! Thank you to all that helped. At least we know it can be defeated with a little luck, a little antibiotic, a willing duck (she was such a good girl!), a lot of input from others, and a stubborn human!

I'm so happy!
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Thanks loads for the update! I think of Mildred every day, since I myself, have a mild case of bumblefoot.

When the antibiotic ointment alone did not seem to help much, I switched to a potato bandage, which helped, then I decided to try an epsom salts/comfrey/olive oil/beeswax poultice. Yesterday was the first day, the pain was significantly reduced by yesterday evening, this morning even better, so I am doing it again today.

So, back to Mildred.

So proud of both of you, and grateful to all who helped. This was one for the books, if you ask me.

Amiga I would love to have your rescipe for the comfrey,epsom salt, olive oil and beeswax poultice... thanks
 
Hope this is not too much of a digression . . . but it may help others, so

Miss Lydia,

Comfrey grows in my garden, so I gather a large handful of its leaves. If I used boughten dried comfrey, I reckon I would use a half a cup to a cup of dried chopped leaves.

With fresh comfrey, I hang it for a day to release some of the moisture, and reduce risk of mold.

I warm a couple of cups of good olive oil in a double boiler, and add the comfrey. I keep a lid on it when not stirring. I stir it occasionally for about half an hour, then turn off the heat. It sits, covered, about ten or twelve hours.

Then I warm it back up to about 100 degrees, not real hot. I strain out the comfrey (just use a strainer and gently press the leaves to get all the oil I can out of it). I compost the leaves. The oil is now a deeper green.

At this point I may dip out comfrey oil into colored glass bottles. Sometimes the oil is handy, too.

I start adding small chunks (the size of three of my fingers together and I have short fingers) of beeswax to the mix. I take a spoon and dip it in the salve and set it in the freezer for a minute. This shows me the consistency of the salve. If it is too oily yet, I add more beeswax. For lip balm I like it waxier. If I did not have a freezer I would just have to be more patient
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When the consistency is right, I take one 1,000 unit vitamin E capsule (the oily gel cap), pierce it, and squeeze the contents into the salve. Vitamin E is good for the skin and helps keep the salve fresh longer. Then I pop the capsule in my mouth and enjoy it while I finish up. I use a steel ladle and dip it out into dry tins or jars and let them cool on the stove top. This can take over an hour, depending on the size of the tins.

Okay, now we have comfrey salve.

To make the Epsom salt poultice with the salve, I scoop about two tablespoons of salve into a custard cup (so scientific) and begin adding salts by sprinkling them in and stirring. When the mixture begins to look like very sugary cookie dough, I consider it done.

I put a big dab of poultice covered with a steri-pad and taped on the first time, and since then I am using a dime-sized dab under two criss-crossed bandaids. I can still wear my work shoes, or clogs, and get around fine (except for a little limp at first).

Hope that covers it! No pun intended. I often think the drawback with adding the Epsom salts, from a duck mom point of view, is that ducks are so good at slipping out of bandages, at least my ducks are, and I can just see them swallowing the poultice and getting the trots. Which would not be horrible, but I wouldn't want to deal with a duck with bumblefoot AND the trots.

Still, if someone could come up with an escape-proof, fairly comfortable duck foot bandage (the world would beat a path to her door), that would make this poultice worth considering.
 
Hope this is not too much of a digression . . . but it may help others, so

Miss Lydia,

Comfrey grows in my garden, so I gather a large handful of its leaves. If I used boughten dried comfrey, I reckon I would use a half a cup to a cup of dried chopped leaves.

With fresh comfrey, I hang it for a day to release some of the moisture, and reduce risk of mold.

I warm a couple of cups of good olive oil in a double boiler, and add the comfrey. I keep a lid on it when not stirring. I stir it occasionally for about half an hour, then turn off the heat. It sits, covered, about ten or twelve hours.

Then I warm it back up to about 100 degrees, not real hot. I strain out the comfrey (just use a strainer and gently press the leaves to get all the oil I can out of it). I compost the leaves. The oil is now a deeper green.

At this point I may dip out comfrey oil into colored glass bottles. Sometimes the oil is handy, too.

I start adding small chunks (the size of three of my fingers together and I have short fingers) of beeswax to the mix. I take a spoon and dip it in the salve and set it in the freezer for a minute. This shows me the consistency of the salve. If it is too oily yet, I add more beeswax. For lip balm I like it waxier. If I did not have a freezer I would just have to be more patient
wink.png
.

When the consistency is right, I take one 1,000 unit vitamin E capsule (the oily gel cap), pierce it, and squeeze the contents into the salve. Vitamin E is good for the skin and helps keep the salve fresh longer. Then I pop the capsule in my mouth and enjoy it while I finish up. I use a steel ladle and dip it out into dry tins or jars and let them cool on the stove top. This can take over an hour, depending on the size of the tins.

Okay, now we have comfrey salve.

To make the Epsom salt poultice with the salve, I scoop about two tablespoons of salve into a custard cup (so scientific) and begin adding salts by sprinkling them in and stirring. When the mixture begins to look like very sugary cookie dough, I consider it done.

I put a big dab of poultice covered with a steri-pad and taped on the first time, and since then I am using a dime-sized dab under two criss-crossed bandaids. I can still wear my work shoes, or clogs, and get around fine (except for a little limp at first).

Hope that covers it! No pun intended. I often think the drawback with adding the Epsom salts, from a duck mom point of view, is that ducks are so good at slipping out of bandages, at least my ducks are, and I can just see them swallowing the poultice and getting the trots. Which would not be horrible, but I wouldn't want to deal with a duck with bumblefoot AND the trots.

Still, if someone could come up with an escape-proof, fairly comfortable duck foot bandage (the world would beat a path to her door), that would make this poultice worth considering.
Thank you Amiga, i have comfrey in my garden but it's in the tiny growing stage right now so will have to wait a while before I can make the salve unless i can find some around here fresh but i doubt it. any way have you ever cut yours and hung it in your ducks run, I do this when mine is growing good and they love it. suppose to be great live stock feed as well. I actually got a bandage to stay for 1 whole day on my big drake once, but boy was it nasty by the end of the day.
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okay what are you using this for for your self if you don't mind me asking?
 
Hardly a digression, Amiga. Good information. Have been trying to find comfrey to grow in my garden for the ducks, but cannot seem to find any - in plants or seeds. I will keep up my search (maybe have to order it online). Thanks for the recipe!
 
Hardly a digression, Amiga. Good information. Have been trying to find comfrey to grow in my garden for the ducks, but cannot seem to find any - in plants or seeds. I will keep up my search (maybe have to order it online). Thanks for the recipe!

Once you get it established you'll have it forever and it has the prettiest flowers..
 
Hi, I am back! With even a few extra minutes!!

newbyduckmom, Richo Cech, not that far from you (at least compared to the distance between you and me) has a business, Horizon Herbs, and sells two varieties of comfrey. I have both right now. And thanks for your graciousness.

I feed the comfrey a couple of ways to the ducks. In early spring, I let them nibble down the growing tips on the forage comfrey, then take them off so it (and some other things, like bee balm) can grow. I pull several leaves when they're about 8 inches long, and chop them up and toss them in the ducks' water. Not as exciting as lettuce, but I have also heard it is good for them.

For me, I use it to make salve, or as a poultice. It seems to help with healing muscle and skin injuries. Disclaimer: this is not medical advice and I am not a medical professional. (Just had to put that in there (c;)

I may try the occasional cup of comfrey leaf tea soon. I know there was one study that indicated possible liver toxicity, but have also read that the amount the test animals ingested were something like 35% of their body mass, daily, for quite a while. But my liver is fine, and I would not be worried about having a few sips of the tea, if it seemed necessary. Your results may vary.

Oh, it really seems to boost tomatoes. I make a tea, either sun tea or add hot water and wait for it to cool down. Then I pour it on the soil around the base of tomato plants. It's supposed to be a compost booster, too, and all kinds of things.

And yes, newbyduckmom, if you plant it, I recommend you put it where you want it to be, and harvest it regularly. It spreads more rapidly when the roots are disturbed, I am told. And there are different types. One makes viable seed, one does not. Horizon Herbs has a nice page on comfrey on their web site, with more info.

I have mine in a couple of places. The viable seed comfrey is in an area where, if it decides to take over the world, it will have to go through a road, or through the duck yard, and I just don't feel it could be successful doing either. The nonviable seed variety is in a garden close to the house, where it gets to compete with day lilies, mint, myrtle, nettle, and my spade.

Much health and happiness to you all, and Mildred, of course!
 

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