Miniature Citron Silkies

[Pastal palace silkies]

Hi I’ve recently purchased a trio of MINIATURE citron silkie, my plan is to cross in other silkies then breed the offspring back to parent birds in the hope of retrieving the colour and eventually gaining the type of my other silkies. The problem I have is I can’t find anything on the colour genetics of these so I’m not sure what colour birds I should cross out to? Black maybe? Buff? Would the offspring be split for the colour? Please help I’m keen to get this project off the ground but I don’t want to go in blind. Thank you so much anyone who takes the time to answer

 

[Egg Snatcher]

@nicalandia @pipdzipdnreadytogo @MysteryChicken

 

[Egg Snatcher]

What color are your other silkies?

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

Do you have any pictures of the birds? Names of many varieties are used, quite frankly, willy-nilly and whatever sounds fancy enough, so it's hard to know genetically what a more obscure variety may be just from the name.


@nicalandia is your best bet on getting answers here, truthfully. Hopefully they pop in, as I'm eager to learn as well.

 

[MysteryChicken]

@nicalandia @pipdzipdnreadytogo @MysteryChicken

Citron is a color I don't have much experience with.

 

[nicalandia]

Citron is a color I don't have much experience with.

Citron or Citroen(in dutch) often implies that it's a gold based bird diluted by recessive ig cream, the color/pattern name is of European Origin as the name is not found on American breeds.

Another name of Citron is Lemon..

Here is pictures of them I found from a member of this forum
https://www.backyardchickens.com/members/ozkan.477283/#thattachplus-images

These birds should be wheaten at the e locus(eWh/eWh) but also eb/eb(not the best of e allele if one is trying to get a Self Lemon Citron Colored bird) Columbian Co/Co and recessive cream ig/ig

My suggestion would be to use gold partridge hens with the Citron Rooster, Grab all of the F1 doughters and cross them with a Citron half brother from the Citron/Citron breeding pen.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Citron or Citroen often implies that it's a gold based bird diluted by recessive ig cream, the color/pattern name is of European Origin as the name is not found on American breeds.

Another name of Citron is Lemon..

Here is pictures of them I found from a member of this forum
https://www.backyardchickens.com/members/ozkan.477283/#thattachplus-images

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These birds should be wheaten at the e locus(eWh/eWh) but also eb/eb(not the best of e allele if one is trying to get a Self Lemon Citron Colored bird) Columbian Co/Co and recessive cream ig/ig

Oh, okay. Didn't realize Citron, & lemon were the same color.

So, it's a Gold Columbian of either Wheaten, or partridge base with the inhibitor of gold gene that makes lemon? Is that correct? Apologies, I woke up early this morning.

Not as complicated as I originally thought.

 

[nicalandia]

So, it's a Gold Columbian of either Wheaten, or partridge base with the inhibitor of gold gene that makes lemon? Is that correct?

Not as complicated as I originally thought.

It's quite simple, but due to the recessive nature of the ig/ig mutation the F1s will likely look just buff in color, 50% of the backcross will be lemon/Citron/Citroen in tone.

 

[MysteryChicken]

It's quite simple, but due to the recessive nature of the ig/ig mutation the F1s will likely look just buff in color, 50% of the backcross will be lemon/Citron/Citroen in tone.

This is all nice to know. Thanks.

 

[Pastal palace silkies]

What color are your other silkies?

I have black, white, paint, blue, blue splash, lavender, blue cream, buff, red Pyle, mauve, chocolate, mauve splash, various cuckoo and chocolate splash so it’s just a question of which ones to use