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[Bogtown Chick]

Those that feed the world will have control of the world. That's the way our government thinks. And the farmer is simply a perishable item on the way to this greedy worldview. My Dad's first cousin, who is very close to him, is a "Big Farmer" He's had to go that way to "make it" and still be in the fields he loves. The micronutrients are lost from bacteria in the soil you are correct. (just read that this morning--LOL) I think that's why people are putting Braggs in their diet to tell you the truth. LOL. Gotta get it somewhere. I also hear you and others struggling to look for hay and straw for your birds and I know that's another consequence of GMO preferred crops. It's all a big hoopla.

 

[BlackBrookPoultry]

Monsanto needs to go away! If anyone thinks that GMOs are no big deal, think again! They are poisoning our.air, soil, water supply AND implanting the poisons right into the seeds we grow. Lab rats get cancer from it, why wouldn't we? The "new" varieties of corn have a significant amount less protein and lysine than traditional corn. I try not to eat corn or soy at all. Occassionally I will have corn tortilla chips, but only if they are organic. Some people are under the imptession that hybrids are GMOs. Not true at all. Scientists play with the DNA of GMO plants, its not as simple as crossing a couple varieties. And you have to buy new seed ever year. No saving seeds from the gmos and replanting every year. Monsanto (an others) love to have control of the food supply like that. I will post a good article when I'm not on my phone here.

 

[jbher]

Does anyone here get their feed from Buckwheat Growers? I looked into them a few weeks ago and their prices seem really good for Organic and Transitional (non-gmo) feed.

 

[BlackBrookPoultry]

We carry the Cashton feeds here in Amery. I think its about $22/50#, soy free organic is the same price. I've never looked into Buckwheat growers. I'll have to do that.

 

[Vashjir]

Monsanto needs to go away! If anyone thinks that GMOs are no big deal, think again! They are poisoning our.air, soil, water supply AND implanting the poisons right into the seeds we grow. Lab rats get cancer from it, why wouldn't we? The "new" varieties of corn have a significant amount less protein and lysine than traditional corn. I try not to eat corn or soy at all. Occassionally I will have corn tortilla chips, but only if they are organic. Some people are under the imptession that hybrids are GMOs. Not true at all. Scientists play with the DNA of GMO plants, its not as simple as crossing a couple varieties. And you have to buy new seed ever year. No saving seeds from the gmos and replanting every year. Monsanto (an others) love to have control of the food supply like that. I will post a good article when I'm not on my phone here.

I'm no fan of monsanto, but I'd like to correct several points. First, organic in no way shape or form means gmo-free. GMO crops are often used in organic farming because of the reduced need for pesticides.
Second, hybrids by definition are genetically modified, just not artificially so. Humans have been modifying the genetics of plants and animals since the beginnings of civilization. Just look at any modern crop next to it's wild ancestor and tell me that they're genetically identical.
And if you're referring to trans-species genetic modification, not only retroviruses have been doing that for millions of years, but many hybrid, and even heirloom crops are in fact originally bred from 2 or more distinctly different species.
Granted many other 'hybrid' plants are just varietal hybrids (2 inbred strains of the same species crossed to combine desirable traits of each strain).
Again, I'm not a fan of monsanto and their other mega-agri-business brethren, especially when it comes to their business practices and legal departments, but it's best to know the facts so that you can make better informed decisions, rather than rely on here say and ideology.

 

[BlackBrookPoultry]

I work in the ag industry. It is alarming how much Roundup and now 2,4D are being sprayed all over. Round up ready field corn and soybeans are the norm. You have to special order seed that's not.

GMOs are a creation that couldn't happen in nature, only in a lab. Also, a lot of them have pesticides right in the seed. That its NOT safe.
http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/
Certified organic foods CANNOT contain GMOs.
http::///www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

 

[cochins1088]

I work in the ag industry. It is alarming how much Roundup and now 2,4D are being sprayed all over. Round up ready field corn and soybeans are the norm. You have to special order seed that's not.

GMOs are a creation that couldn't happen in nature, only in a lab. Also, a lot of them have pesticides right in the seed. That its NOT safe.
http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/
Certified organic foods CANNOT contain GMOs.
http:

//www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

I've never taken the time to research GMO before, so my knowledge is very limited. I just thought I'd mention that both of those sources are biased.

Do you have any scientific studies?

I don't support GMO, I just thought I'd ask.

 

[Bogtown Chick]

This Non-GMO corn feed of LoLa's is not organic. They attest to that. Organic has many definitions and view points I've found especially when it comes to feed and then raising Organic eggs. What are you really looking for? Many are just looking for "Pastured" eggs. I was looking for that when I got my birds. Now when I research and hear about nutrition options that feed my food makers, my chickens, one has to get right down to the nitty gritties when it comes to finding good stuff for them. Just so difficult this day and age when it's monopolized by Dictator companies.

I'm not a big fan of the corn-borer myself, but how did we do it before? I'm just a fan of the old ways. when I didn't have to worry about my food supply not being able to be pollenated because a systemic insecticide is killing off the honey bee. It's just scary to me and my wallet still suffers at the grocery store too, despite their best efforts to get me high harvest=high supply to meet the demand. It's just coming right back around and biting them in the behind.

Hey did you all see Bachmans is not going to sell plants with these systemic insecticides on board? It was on KARE 11 last night or Thursday night...I can't remember.

 

[mnhomestead]

I do not think crossing different corn plants gives you a bad food per se.

Crossing two plants together is called a hybrid and can happen naturally in nature. Gmo's can not happen in nature and are made in a lab by having the dna of a plant altered and spliced with dna of an animal, bacteria, pesticide...

Does anyone here get their feed from Buckwheat Growers? I looked into them a few weeks ago and their prices seem really good for Organic and Transitional (non-gmo) feed.

I do! I get the transitional feed and have been pretty happy with them.

 

[Bogtown Chick]

This is the fence I walk when I haven't done my homework. LOL. But a hybrid, is a modification of genetics to get a usually more vigorous plant. And I think that's what I was saying earlier this AM on the fly typing. And I get that GMOs done in the lab are less desirable than the ones done in nature. I think we're all on the same page...just some of us lacking some knowledge than others.(me) LOL. Again.