Missouri Dominique Project

[Rye]

Very neat. They appear to be nice wide birds.

The barring is looking fairly decent.

I'm not one to be up to par on the genetics, but that boy on the right sure is a looker. If the Extended Black doesn't hold your project back, I'd say let it go if it's not necessary. If you need it toward the end to tidy things up is it easy to reintroduce?

Is it of your opinion that the yellow skin of the Doms came from an oriental infusion?

 

[centrarchid]

Both the yellow skin and extended black could resulted from infusion with oriental blood. My guess it would have been about the same time. Market appears to have preferred yellow skin on dressed birds.

 

[Rye]

Both the yellow skin and extended black could resulted from infusion with oriental blood. My guess it would have been about the same time. Market appears to have preferred yellow skin on dressed birds.

That makes sense. I guess that the Spanish and Java don't carry the extended black gene? Like I said I am a layman when it comes to the genes. Other than leghorn, it would have to be an asian breed

In my readings a lot of american breeds got Malay blood introduced for yellow skin and other qualities. Might have tied in with the revolution and anti british sentiment after the war of 1812. Brit chickens had white skin, so we didn't want that... Sorry to go off topic, I find the history of chickens neat and it seems to follow the countries history.

 

[centrarchid]

Java do carry the extended black gene (E) which makes that breed black and masks the gene coding for yellow skin. I do not know what you mean by Spanish?

 

[Rye]

Java do carry the extended black gene (E) which makes that breed black and masks the gene coding for yellow skin. I do not know what you mean by Spanish?

White Faced Spanish.

Ok. I was just trying to think of black chickens that would have been around at the time that could have contributed the E. But the combo of E and yellow skin seems to not come from the fowl that were available at the time.

 

[centrarchid]

White Faced Spanish.

Ok. I was just trying to think of black chickens that would have been around at the time that could have contributed the E. But the combo of E and yellow skin seems to not come from the fowl that were available at the time.

Black Javas had both.

 

[Rye]

Black Javas had both.

Ok, there again I was thinking the JAvas carried a dilute black.

I really need to read up on the gene stuff. It is my big weak spot with poultry.

Thanks for the info and update on the project.

 

[centrarchid]

Matings for 2018 have been figured out. Birds to be used have good growth and decent type.

Group A.
Female A1 - Het for extended black, yellow legs, and pea comb allele (mother to female 2)
Female A2 - looks like a typical dominique
Male A0 - Homosyzous for baring, het for extended black, yellow skin / white skin, pea comb and rose comb (sibling to B1)

Group B.
Female B1 - Het for barring (because female), extended black, pea comb, rose comb, yellow skin / white skin (sibling to A0)
Male B0 - het for pea comb and rose comb, yellow skin, for barring can not tell id het or homo, no extended black, with assume type and hard feathering

 

[centrarchid]

I have about 50 chicks hatched so far with another 15 either in incubator or under broody hen. Of those hatched, nearly half will be used as fryers because of leg coloration alone unless stellar performance with respect to growth (males) and have good type. About 25 chicks below.

 

[Alaskan]

looks good!