Monistat 7 for Sour Crop?

[khind]

Are you holding her head up high enough? When I do it I have someone hold their head up high so their neck is in a straight line. Obviously if she has a sour crop then what @azygous is saying is the best answer, just thinking that it could be something small like that too.

Thank you both. I am definitely *trying* to hold it straight and lengthened anyway, so I can get the tube in.
I also massaged her crop throughout the day today, more than yesterday.

What frustrates me is that the protocol given in everything I read about sour crop is to do a flush as well as an antifungal treatment. But this liquid is often getting expelled out of her mouth at the slightest provocation - i.e. opening her beak, or while she eats (with whatever tiny appetite she has had the past 2 days)...& thus she stops eating way too soon. If her throat anatomy weren't so ill-suited for this, it seems like it would be welcome - get that stuff out of there the easy way. But I know that's not the case.

Because of this, I didn't try a flush again/anymore this evening. However, later I came to dose her with antifungal, and this time I simply put a little in her beak (at the rt. side, but not far back) to see how she would handle ingesting something, with her head level/straight ahead and she swallowed, but immediately after, liquid dribbled out... and this time she suddenly got liquid in her trachea - I could hear it gurgling! Maybe that happened because she shook her head a bit after swallowing... So I stopped, put the cap on, and just held her on my lap. I'm so scared for her.

Unless there's a miracle tomorrow, I'll be phoning the vet to try to set up a drop-off for a necropsy. I will do her send off from this life, here at home.

 

[khind]

I'll see how she seems in the morning. If feasible, I'll feed her, and later go back to the antifungal with a syringe again. My criteria for remaining hopeful is that liquid can stay away and she can swallow.

 

[khind]

I do wonder if there could be something impacted in there too.

Her breathing is back to normal now with no gurgling. She drank some water, and after about 5 minutes I picked her up off of my lap, holding her like a football as I do, and water spilled right out. I'm trying to put as little pressure on that crop as I can, but it's just so huge. She's remarkably alert and friendly though, there's one consolation.

One last thing too - her breath does not smell, and the liquid coming from her beak doesn't smell either. So either the antifungal is actually working after only 3 doses (which would be great), Or the strong smell might have just been coming from her stool; the night I brought her in she had very strongly sulfur- smelling dried-out droppings stuck to her feathers, & when she pooped last night and this a.m., which were green, it also smelled foul & strong. (I finally got to soak her backside feathers tonight.)
Tonight she only has liquid stool, a very light brownish khaki, and it barely smells.
So... if it turns out that her breath did Not actually smell... could this be something other than sour crop - fluid buildup? Is ascites always only present in the abdomen? This is something I will try to find out from the vet.

 

[azygous]

When soure crop is this bad, I double up on the miconazole to three times a day. Sour crop doesn't always smell. I've only had one case of sour crop where there was an awful odor, and that hen had impacted crop with sour crop.

 

[azygous]

You should be able to tell I wrote the above while I was still waking up. You can double the dose to around one teaspoon each and give it three times a day. The idea is to overwhelm the yeast.

 

[khind]

You should be able to tell I wrote the above while I was still waking up. You can double the dose to around one teaspoon each and give it three times a day. The idea is to overwhelm the yeast.

Thank you!

 

[khind]

Are you holding her head up high enough? When I do it I have someone hold their head up high so their neck is in a straight line. Obviously if she has a sour crop then what @azygous is saying is the best answer, just thinking that it could be something small like that too.

It's just me, unfortunately. A second pair of hands would help a lot. And I'm stuck at home until the ice starts to thaw - temps are finally supposed to come up this afternoon. It seems like the timing for things like this is often the worst.

 

[azygous]

How is her behavior? The poop looks like a reproductive infection is flaring up.

 

[Eddie12109]

How is her behavior? The poop looks like a reproductive infection is flaring up.

Wrong thread?

 

[Eddie12109]

Is her crop still huge?
When my hen used to get it horribly, much like yours, I would put her in a crop bra and have it lightly lay against her crop, that did the most for her. It helped her digest it.
I’m sure this isn’t advised to do but instead of throwing her up, I’ve read a thread about someone who did the reverse of tube feeding. They stuck the tube down her throat and then sucked up the crop contents and removed it. Never tried it though.