More information on Eastern Coyotes--kinda long

[woodmort]

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Actually, the way I understand it they reproduce in terms of the room they have. Taking them out will just increase reproduction to make up for it. The general advice from the DEC is to leave them alone as long as they don't bother your livestock as they are very territorial and will keep possible stock killers out of their territory. Besides, in NYS they are protected with a open/closed season and you need a hunting or trapping license to take them. [I know SSS but don't get caught it is not only a healthy fine but confiscation of guns and traps as well as loss of hunting/trapping privileges.]

 

[joebryant]

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Actually, the way I understand it they reproduce in terms of the room they have. Taking them out will just increase reproduction to make up for it. The general advice from the DEC is to leave them alone as long as they don't bother your livestock as they are very territorial and will keep possible stock killers out of their territory. Besides, in NYS they are protected with a open/closed season and you need a hunting or trapping license to take them. [I know SSS but don't get caught it is not only a healthy fine but confiscation of guns and traps as well as loss of hunting/trapping privileges.]

They can't reproduce if they're ALL dead. I can see letting some of the species live in other states where the citizens might want them, but not in mine. We got along very well without them when they weren't here.

 

[Yardbirds286]

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Actually, the way I understand it they reproduce in terms of the room they have. Taking them out will just increase reproduction to make up for it. The general advice from the DEC is to leave them alone as long as they don't bother your livestock as they are very territorial and will keep possible stock killers out of their territory. Besides, in NYS they are protected with a open/closed season and you need a hunting or trapping license to take them. [I know SSS but don't get caught it is not only a healthy fine but confiscation of guns and traps as well as loss of hunting/trapping privileges.]

They can't reproduce if they're ALL dead. I can see letting some of the species live in other states where the citizens might want them, but not in mine. We got along very well without them when they weren't here.

There is no way to make them "all dead". It's true if you have some in your area, like we do, and they leave you and your animals alone; you should leave them be. Otherwise, a new group will take over, and then you could start to have problems. Thinking you could actually kill every coyote in your area and keep them out for good is simply unrealistic. Get an electric fence, and keep your chickens in at night.

 

[joebryant]

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They can't reproduce if they're ALL dead. I can see letting some of the species live in other states where the citizens might want them, but not in mine. We got along very well without them when they weren't here.

There is no way to make them "all dead". It's true if you have some in your area, like we do, and they leave you and your animals alone; you should leave them be. Otherwise, a new group will take over, and then you could start to have problems. Thinking you could actually kill every coyote in your area and keep them out for good is simply unrealistic. Get an electric fence, and keep your chickens in at night.

Tell that to the carrier pigeons and the dodo birds.

 

[woodmort]

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That was loss of habitat as much as wholesale killing--coyotes can adapt to new conditions--they live in NYC and LA for goodness sake--there is a big difference.

 

[Yardbirds286]

You forgot to add the dinosaurs.

 

[7L Farm]

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& they take alot of fawns as well. At our farm here in Texas we shoot everyone we see.

 

[bethinoklahoma]

electric fence and putting away the flock at night.
I HATE losing my stuff to anything. Hate it... But the
more you kill them the more that will come. I use lights
electric tape and a tall fence with barb wire. Nothings
perfect but you have to do your best first. If something still
acts weird sometimes you just have to shoot I guess.

 

[Debbi]

Don't forget too, that coyotes take their share in rats, mice, moles voles and carrien as well. I've watched them more than once pounce on rats in the field behind me, in the snow, only to come up with a decent sized field rat. As long as they don't bother me and mine, they are free to go about their business. I did have one come into the yard to check out the chicken run about 3 weeks ago. He was promptly ZAPPED by the electric fence surrounding the coop, and hit the road in a hurry! Should one decide to get braver and actually do some damage, he will meet his maker. Until then, live and let live I say. Secure your birds well, and there should be no problems.

 

[centrarchid]

What I like about coyotes best is they can suppress red fox numbers. The red fox for me has proven to be the more persistant eater of chickens that is harder to deny access to chicken yard because they seem to have less fear of me than do coyotes. More coyotes means fewer red foxes.