Mustard colored urates, stool otherwise normal

[mama23]

I used it on him when I first got him at 4 weeks of age. He had grain mites on him. I was told they don't live on chickens but he definitely had them. I didn't notice any yellow urates but for the longest time he had yellow around his eyelids. That is all gone now.

Yes they are pine shavings. Southern states sells various sizes. I plan to get the medium size next time. The mini I got this time are too small.

 

[mama23]

I also switched to filtered water the beginning of this month. Takes out fluoride and chlorine etc.

 

[pennyJo1960]

all of a sudden yes they have sizes out here also made me angry as all get out

 

[Eggcessive]

Can you feel of his lower abdomen for any tightness or fluid? I don’t think the Sevin dust would have caused this. It is no longer approved for poultry, and I have found that lice are not dying right away. I would use permethrin garden dust or the spray because it is approved and safe for chickens.

It could be a heart or liver problem, but hard to know without a poultry vet and labs or xrays. There might be an infection or tumor somewhere that has caused a liver or bile duct issue. The repeated issue with coccidiosis may be related. We can only guess at this time. A fecal test may not show anything except worms or coccidiosis. I wish I could offer help, but I would keep trying to get him to eat and drink. Maybe try a couple of ml of Poultry NutriDrench each day for vitamins and trace minerals including iron.

 

[mama23]

He has a good appetite and to anyone else they would not believe he is sick. He is just wobbly like his left leg buckles on him and then the yellow urates. I am afraid he is fighting off mareks and has liver tumors. I just wasn't sure if this was a possibility and it sounds like it is. His abdomen is normal. I don't feel an enlarged liver. He has lost some weight but his keel isn't sticking out yet. I would think if he had a tumor in his liver that he would lose appetite. I am totally stumped. I did notice black specks in the feed attached to the grains. I haven't seen this before and I replaced it. Not sure if this could be an aflatoxin or not.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Great of you to notice changes

 

[Notaneggspurt]

Really hate to bring up a possible stinky topic. What type of feed is he getting? Like starter/grower, layer or all flock? And is he a bantam?

 

[Eggcessive]

Were the specks in the feed moving or dead, such as weevils? I have found some of those on feed from a certain chain store a few years ago, but they are harmless. Mold could be harmful. It usually smells off like a chemical and has a blue green tinge, usually more common in scratch grains in warm weather, but can be a problem if feed gets wet.

There are some members here who have dealt with Mareks and other tumor causing viruses who may have thoughts. @rebrascora, @azygous, @casportpony?

 

[mama23]

I have two hens and the rooster. They are all currently on starter. He has always been on starter. It is nature's best organic starter but it has a low 16% protein and I supplement it with flock party starter which I think is 22%. I did move my natures best to a new area and it is moist in that area. I may have moved it a month ago. He fits all the symptoms. This may be a mold issue. I took the natures best away and filled their bowls with only the flock party. It looked fine and was stored in a different area not damp. I almost wonder if his damage from coccidia made him more susceptible (assuming this is what is causing his symptoms).

 

[mama23]

It wasn't bright green. Definitely was not bugs. You know how in crumbles there are pieces of corn attached to some individual crumbles? It was just like that except black.