My experience with McMurray

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Sorry but I'm still trying to get my head around the fact you can post a live animal at all. Does my head in they are treated as if death by post is an inconvenience not cruelty.

Keep meaning to ask if its legal over here in Aus as well.

Shipping of day old poultry isn't cruel since they can live off the yolk from the egg and don't need food or water for 2-3 days. It's terrible when casualties do happen, but I am still reluctant to call it cruelty. The chicks don't know what's going on; it's not as if they're being tortured. I've witnessed chicks drowned and trampled to death when left with their mothers... how many baby chicks survive to adulthood in between accidents and predators without human intervention? Some things in the poultry world are a little morally ambiguous depending on your perspective, like the fact that backyard hen owners are indirectly contributing to a bunch of male chicks being killed since they are unwanted.

 

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Shipping of day old poultry isn't cruel since they can live off the yolk from the egg and don't need food or water for 2-3 days. It's terrible when casualties do happen, but I am still reluctant to call it cruelty. The chicks don't know what's going on; it's not as if they're being tortured. I've witnessed chicks drowned and trampled to death when left with their mothers... how many baby chicks survive to adulthood in between accidents and predators without human intervention? Some things in the poultry world are a little morally ambiguous depending on your perspective, like the fact that backyard hen owners are indirectly contributing to a bunch of male chicks being killed since they are unwanted.

Your delivery men must be better than ours. Even the postal workers at the post office have told me not to waste my time writing fragile on boxes.
I envision the poor things locked in a dark box being shaken all over the place.

 

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You

Shipping of day old poultry isn't cruel since they can live off the yolk from the egg and don't need food or water for 2-3 days. It's terrible when casualties do happen, but I am still reluctant to call it cruelty. The chicks don't know what's going on; it's not as if they're being tortured. I've witnessed chicks drowned and trampled to death when left with their mothers... how many baby chicks survive to adulthood in between accidents and predators without human intervention? Some things in the poultry world are a little morally ambiguous depending on your perspective, like the fact that backyard hen owners are indirectly contributing to a bunch of male chicks being killed since they are unwanted.

Your delivery men must be better than ours. Even the postal workers at the post office have told me not to waste my time writing fragile on boxes.
I envision the poor things locked in a dark box being shaken all over the place.

 

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You
Your delivery men must be better than ours. Even the postal workers at the post office have told me not to waste my time writing fragile on boxes.
I envision the poor things locked in a dark box being shaken all over the place.

No, that definitely happens. What I meant is that the chickens aren't capable of thinking "oh no, I'm locked in a box and being shaken around!" It's sad and unfortunate when careless handling occurs and I find it unacceptable on the part of the postal employees who don't care about a peeping box marked with live animals and leave it out in the cold. But I don't find it cruel for people to order chicks through the mail. For as many sad stories of losses of chicks that crop up, the majority arrive healthy and happy or else hatcheries wouldn't be able to keep existing.

 

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Shall just agree to disagree about the definition of cruel I think and leave it at that lol

Don't want to totally thread hijack