My Prediction

[zazouse]

Anyone bored? Maybe take a look at the unanswered threads and see if you can help:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/newposts/filter/unanswered

-Kathy

I did a welcome but geezzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that is alot of folks that never heard/hear back, i never knew, guess i need to start having my morning coffee over there till my peabrain friends wake up

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I feel bad for the folks that post and don't get answers, so I figure it will make them feel better even if all I can do is acknowledge their post.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

@zazouse , maybe you could do one of your custom welcome pictures and invite them to come check out the peafowl forum?

-Kathy

 

[DylansMom]

I feel bad for the folks that post and don't get answers, so I figure it will make them feel better even if all I can do is acknowledge their post.

-Kathy

I'm working on it, I've responded to 2 so far.

 

[casportpony]

I got the idea from this post:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/946778/byc-member-interview-alaskan#post_14615669

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Tomorrow for sure, lol.

Kathy

 

[zazouse]

@zazouse , maybe you could do one of your custom welcome pictures and invite them to come check out the peafowl forum?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Found this about antibiotics and dogs, but same can be applied to birds:

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COMBINATION THERAPY

Posted by Orestes Rios on July 15, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Sometimes, a dog will get 2 or more different bacteria infecting a wound, for which no "one" antibiotic will work. Other times, a particular antibiotic "should" work on the bacteria present, but the infection is so deep that the antibiotic can't penetrate effectively. In either case, the infection can worsen, and so combination therapy might be warranted.

First of all, any time you have an infection present that does NOT respond to a solid drug choice, like Clavamox or Cephalexen ... or especially Baytril or Cipro ... you ought to take your dog to the vet and ask him to run a CULTURE & SENSITIVITY TEST on the wound. Because if the solid antibiotics are not working, you could be dealing with a problem that requires a special antibiotic, or several bacteria that require combination antibiotic therapy, and a CULTURE & SENSITIVITY TEST will tell you exactly what bacteria are present and exactly which antibiotic(s) your dog needs. This can be absolutely critical, so if you EVER have a dog not respond to one of the stronger antibiotics, go to your vet to have this test run immediately.

However, if you are unwilling and/or unable to go to your vet, there are some general antibiotic combinations that work very well together, and there are some that don't. I will touch on some of the combinations that work, so that if you are out in the field and can't get to a vet you can put some good mixes in together.

ANTIROBE I BAYTRIL: This is a combination that would be a good choice for a deep bone infection or a deep dental infection that doesn't seem to respond to any "one" drug. A deep abscess that is unresponsive might be a reason to combine these two drugs.

BAYTRIL I CEPHALEXEN: This is a combination that would be a good choice for a deep tissue infection or even a deep bone infection that doesn't seem to respond to any "one" drug. Or use this as an attempt to try and cover "everything" if you have a persistent infection but have not identified the problem.

BAYTRIL I CLAVAMOX: This is a combination that would be a good choice for a deep tissue infection or even a deep bone infection that doesn't seem to respond to any "one" drug. Or use this as an attempt to try and cover "everything" if you have a persistent infection but have not identified the problem. * Best Choice *

CLAVAMOX / GENTAMICIN: This is a combination that would be a good choice for a deep tissue infection, or you can use this as an attempt to try and cover "everything" if you have a persistent infection but have not identified the problem.

CLAVAMOX / METRONIDAZOLE: This is a combination that would be a good choice for a deep absess or a deep flesh infection that doesn't seem to respond to any "one" drug. Metronidazole is a very penetrating drug, and allows the Clavamox "access" to cell entry in an abscess that it might otherwise not have used on its own. Metronidazole also gets some specific anaerobic bacteria of its own, while Clavamox is broader-spectrum, but the two work synergistically together.

Remember, though, troubleshooting like this is a poor substitute for getting a Culture & Sensitivity test and using exactly the recommended drug(s). Further, it is unwise to make combination therapy like this "standard practice"; use such therapy only in EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES, when nothing else seems to be working. In other words, don't even consider combination therapy unless you have a serious problem. Just stick to standard choices if you simply have a fresh wound, and these should suffice quite nicely.

Some Final Words Finally, some injectable antibiotics will be in dry powder form in their vials and you must mix them into a liquid. Do not use anything other than what the label says to use. If it says use "sterile water for injection" do not use " 0.9% saline solution" - or vice versa. The local pharmacy will carry these dilutents and they are cheap. Also, ALL antibiotics should be given with PLENTY OF WATER for the dog to drink. A dog being well hydrated is critical for the antibiotics to be transported effectively in the bloodstream! If you are giving antibiotics to a dehydrated dog, they won't work! This is why giving antibiotics in conjunction with IV Fluid Therapy is considered Best Practice.

I will say this one last time, hopefully to drill it in: USE THE RIGHT DRUG FOR THE RIGHT PURPOSE. In other words don't use Penicillin for a deep ear infection, use Clavamox. Don't use Baytril for a fresh bite wound, use Amoxicillin or Penicillin. Get the idea? Always start by giving the lighter antibiotics immediately after a wound as a prophylactic (preventative), and you should never need to use one of the Big Boys. If you do get a dog which starts to get infected anyway, then move to a mid-grade antibiotic. Only if an infection persists in spite of a solid antibiotic like Clavamox or Cephalexin should you pull out the heavier artillary and move to a Baytril, etc. And if this happens, again, Best Practice calls for a Culture & Sensitivity Test at this point.

But, just winging it, if I personally had to choose only 2 antibiotics to have in the field, I would chose Clavamox and Baytril (or, in human form, Augmentin and Cipro). These 2 drugs are extremely effective by themselves, they're easy to come by ... and they combine well together to cover just about anything. So between them they can handle most any infection you will ever come across, either by themselves and especially when grouped together.

If you can only get "one" antibiotic, and you don't have any money to afford a complete medicine chest, then try to get Cephalexen, because it is good, it's available everywhere, and it is cheap. As dogmen we will most commonly use antibiotics for accidental bite wounds and Cephalexen can get the job done on its own 99% of the time.

Categories: Antibiotics Combination Therapy

 

[casportpony]

On the first week of March, give or take a week, Kathy will post her 25,000th post on BYC.

Looks like I'm getting close to 30k posts, lol.

-Kathy

 

[KsKingBee]

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Is the counter accurate or are you really a 'Chatty Kathy'? I got a PM the other day saying something about being in the top 20th of one percent, o.o5% whoopie, I guess...