Mystery appetite, mobility, and crop issues. She’s starving herself.

Sallyhens

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I have a 2-year old Speckled Sussex that’s having some issues. Specifically with her legs/balance and her appetite and crop. I am most concerned about her appetite because she is starving herself.

Overall her temperament is good - usually sits with her tail up unless she falls asleep. Very alert and eager to do chicken things when I let them out. Still food motivated. She is drinking water pretty normally. She preens herself and attempts to dust bathe, it seems like she doesn’t have the leg strength to do so.

Took her to the vet. She got a concentrated B12 shot because the vet said it could be vitamin deficiency. Then I found the lump in her crop. This is a reoccurring issue that I imagine is a slight case of pendulous crop. I gave her 1cc of Rooster Booster Poultry Cell per day. Also added 1/2 a capsule of digestive enzymes to whatever food she would eat every day. I crated her for a week inside the run with the flock. Made sure she got enough water, rest, pooped, etc. Her leg issues have improved and her crop lump is reducing, very small now. She still won’t eat most foods and I need help figuring it out. I’m going to have the vet put her down if I can’t find a solution, which is a bummer because she’s really sweet.

Leg Issues
She seemed slightly unstable or unaware of her feet. As if her hips are really hurting. Sometimes she’ll stand on her own foot. She stopped roosting but she’s also at the bottom of the pecking order.

She is capable of walking, running, and jumping. After standing for a few minutes, she lays down and stays there for a while. Things have improved but I can tell she’s not 100%.

Crop Issues
It feels like a slightly hard ball of playdough that gets looser with a lot of massage and liquids. Feels like there’s grit and other things stuck in it. It can take a week or two to clear it. She’s never developed sour crop.

Appetite
She will literally go hungry all day rather than touch the feed. I see her eating pine shavings! It’s like she went from loving her feed to hating it while she was sick. Won’t eat mash or anything with mash mixed in. Right now I’m mostly feeding her fruit, oats, and mealworms, but that’s not enough and I can’t keep making her individual meals all day every day. She’s starting to turn away from the oats. I’m at a loss.

There’s a list below of what she’ll eat and won’t eat. There’s some fluctuation in it. I’d appreciate any advice y’all have.


She will eat:

  • Papaya
  • Tomato
  • Oats soaked in water (sometimes)
  • Mealworms
  • Black Soldier Fly larvae
  • Plants and grasses
  • Beetles and other live bugs
  • Scratch
  • Blueberries

She will NOT eat:

  • Layer feed (Dumor Organic pellets or Natureserve)
  • All-flock feed (Kalmbach)
  • Scrambled egg
  • Yogurt
  • Blackberry (a favorite treat)
 
Sorry you are having such a stressful time with your hen.

When did you last deworm her and what did you use?

Do you have a rooster with your flock?
I’ve never dewormed my hens. Is it okay to do that even if they don’t have worms? I stare at their poop frequently and haven’t seen any. I have a Tractor Supply and Rural King near me, I’ll see what they have.

Any recommendations on the brand?

No rooster, and they don’t free range (I do let them out in the evenings in our small yard).
 
Weather may play some role in this. Tell us what it's been like there.
In FL we roast and sweat! I live in zone 9a: 85F feels like 100F and 60-100% humidity. The heat is hard on her more than some of the hens. They have a shaded run, I give them cool-down treats when I get home from work, and I just got a mister in the mail that I’m going to try.

I think I added electrolytes to their water a month ago, maybe I’ll do that again tomorrow.
 
I’ve never dewormed my hens. Is it okay to do that even if they don’t have worms? I stare at their poop frequently and haven’t seen any. I have a Tractor Supply and Rural King near me, I’ll see what they have.
It will not harm them in case they do not have worms.
It is rather rare to see worms in their droppings.

Any recommendations on the brand?
There are several option to choose from, also depending on the kind of worms you intend to treat as some dewormers will just take csre of round worms etc. but not treat tape worms too.

Article 'Valbazen (albendazole) Doses for Poultry, Waterfowl, and Game Birds'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...s-for-poultry-waterfowl-and-game-birds.75490/

Article 'Internal Parasites - Parasitic Worms in Chickens'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/internal-parasites-parasitic-worms-in-chickens.66969/

and they don’t free range
As they do not freerange there will be more fecal matter build up in their run which attracts all kinds of insects and critters that are hosts to internal parasites.

And given your warm to hot and very humid location parasites will thrive and I would deworm at least twice a year.
 
It will not harm them in case they do not have worms.
It is rather rare to see worms in their droppings.


There are several option to choose from, also depending on the kind of worms you intend to treat as some dewormers will just take csre of round worms etc. but not treat tape worms too.

Article 'Valbazen (albendazole) Doses for Poultry, Waterfowl, and Game Birds'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...s-for-poultry-waterfowl-and-game-birds.75490/

Article 'Internal Parasites - Parasitic Worms in Chickens'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/internal-parasites-parasitic-worms-in-chickens.66969/


As they do not freerange there will be more fecal matter build up in their run which attracts all kinds of insects and critters that are hosts to internal parasites.

And given your warm to hot and very humid location parasites will thrive and I would deworm at least twice a year.
If I’m not seeing worms in their droppings, how do I know which worms to treat for?

She is rapidly losing weight. I just checked and her crop is empty. She hasn’t eaten anything all day long, despite there being two feeders. I’m just at a loss. My job has been crazy so I haven’t been able to get to the feed store across town. I just don’t understand why she’ll eat oats and peas, doesn’t want her favorite foods all of a sudden, and chooses to starve.
 
If I’m not seeing worms in their droppings, how do I know which worms to treat for?
Take a sample of their droppings of three consecutive days and have your vet examine it for worm eggs.

The problem with fecal floats is that worm eggs will not always be found because worms excrete their eggs in intervals and not daily.

So despite getting an all clear from the vets poop examination your chickens can still have worms.

(1) I use Flubenole 5% for deworming dosing 1.2 g per kg of feed (~110 g feed per bird per day) for 7 consecutive days.
This will also treat tapeworms, gapeworms
and all other.

7 days egg withdrawal.
While they are still being medicated I feed them their own hard boiled eggs, stopping exactly on day 7.

(2) The dosage for just normal roundworms is 0,6 g per kg feed for 7 consecutive days.
For this dosage there is no egg withdrawal necessary.

Give only the medicated feed for 7 days, no treats on the side.
 

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