Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Fire Ant Farm]

I'll take a stab at it, but I'm no Kev about genetics. The CL girls look very similar to the girls in your pic you are planning on mating him with. I would think the girls will look very similar to their moms, maybe a little added reddish in the breast or some barrs instead of "lace" ( I know not real lace but the patterning on the neck of your girls) on the necks. For the boys I have no clue.

Sorry, the photo is of Dumbledore with his little CL harem - no NNs in that photo. (Sorry if I wasn't clear). I have NN pullets that are red/buff with black tails, one that's partridge/black, and one all black.

 

[Phill98]

yer getting old that's what  ha ha ha

I think so too,lol. This is even more funny because I'm turning 18 in a month

 

[Kev]

@Kev - random color question for you: If I were to put my Cream Legbar rooster over one or some of my NN pullets, which coloring in the NN would lead to the most interesting looking babies?

This is Dumbledore:


- Ant Farm

Him over any of the NN will give all barred chicks.

With the black girls, they will come out black chicks with white head spot and grow up b/w patterned but most if not all will eventually show brown or red on their heads, necks plus breasts on the girls and on the back/saddles on the boys. The genetic reason for this is because the black feather is dominant.. but for other reasons, color leakage is to be expected, it's the amount that is the unknown. Could be barely any or quite a lot.

With the red/buff girls, very likely they will come out cream colored or light brown with variable striping on their backs. Barring head spot will be very variably noticeable from 'is it there??' to somewhat discernible with some having a fairly clear one. They will feather out and end up more or less like DesertChic's Biefelder-NN cross. Buff barred, light red barred. The reason for this is because the NN redbuffs are predominantly wheaten(which is dominant over the legbar red duckwing) and also due to the dominant Co(columbian) gene clearing the body of pattern in the red/buffs.

The partridge girl, some might turn out very legbar like, some sort of legbarish but darker... Possibly some very dark brown with random bars. if she is really partridge, then she is eb- the most recessive base pattern gene.. red duckwing(legbar) is dominant over this but it is common for some partridge to "peek through" and she also lacks the dominant Co gene which means the birds will tend to have the patterned feathers.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Him over any of the NN will give all barred chicks.

With the black girls, they will come out black chicks with white head spot and grow up b/w patterned but most if not all will eventually show brown or red on their heads, necks plus breasts on the girls and on the back/saddles on the boys. The genetic reason for this is because the black feather is dominant.. but for other reasons, color leakage is to be expected, it's the amount that is the unknown. Could be barely any or quite a lot.

With the red/buff girls, very likely they will come out cream colored or light brown with variable striping on their backs. Barring head spot will be very variably noticeable from 'is it there??' to somewhat discernible with some having a fairly clear one. They will feather out and end up more or less like DesertChic's Biefelder-NN cross. Buff barred, light red barred. The reason for this is because the NN redbuffs are predominantly wheaten(which is dominant over the legbar red duckwing) and also due to the dominant Co(columbian) gene clearing the body of pattern in the red/buffs.

The partridge girl, some might turn out very legbar like, some sort of legbarish but darker... Possibly some very dark brown with random bars. if she is really partridge, then she is eb- the most recessive base pattern gene.. red duckwing(legbar) is dominant over this but it is common for some partridge to "peek through" and she also lacks the dominant Co gene which means the birds will tend to have the patterned feathers.

Super helpful - thanks!!!! I've got some IDEAS now (we all know how dangerous that is...)

- Ant Farm

 

[Kassaundra]

Sorry, the photo is of Dumbledore with his little CL harem - no NNs in that photo. (Sorry if I wasn't clear). I have NN pullets that are red/buff with black tails, one that's partridge/black, and one all black.

LOL LOL LOL I wondered where the NN were and why the girls looked so much like CL, lol lol lol

 

[chickengr]

I think so too,lol. This is even more funny because I'm turning 18 in a month

aaaaaahhhhhh, what a lovely age

make sure you enjoy it!

btw did you find any good idea about nest boxes? my nests are super cheap and I find them useful. I put old tyres, put some wood shavings in it and a big cardboard box over it. I sometimes find 2-3 hens together, lol.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

I have a question about nest box behavior, for those more experienced. I have two nest boxes in the Cream Legbar coop, and each has a white ceramic egg in it (just never removed it form before they started laying, and I figure it can help deter any egg eating, since the real eggs are collected fairly promptly). I have two laying pullets in the coop (they each lay almost every day), and bless their hearts, they each lay in a different nest box. One of them likes to roll the white ceramic egg out of the other nest box and into her own, so I find one blue egg on the left, and two white fake eggs and one blue egg on the right. She'll sometimes do this several days in a row. I always move it back.

Is she working her way up to being broody, or is this just more funny chicken behavior?

- Ant Farm

 

[DesertChic]

Him over any of the NN will give all barred chicks.

With the black girls, they will come out black chicks with white head spot and grow up b/w patterned but most if not all will eventually show brown or red on their heads, necks plus breasts on the girls and on the back/saddles on the boys. The genetic reason for this is because the black feather is dominant.. but for other reasons, color leakage is to be expected, it's the amount that is the unknown. Could be barely any or quite a lot.

With the red/buff girls, very likely they will come out cream colored or light brown with variable striping on their backs. Barring head spot will be very variably noticeable from 'is it there??' to somewhat discernible with some having a fairly clear one. They will feather out and end up more or less like DesertChic's Biefelder-NN cross. Buff barred, light red barred. The reason for this is because the NN redbuffs are predominantly wheaten(which is dominant over the legbar red duckwing) and also due to the dominant Co(columbian) gene clearing the body of pattern in the red/buffs.

The partridge girl, some might turn out very legbar like, some sort of legbarish but darker... Possibly some very dark brown with random bars. if she is really partridge, then she is eb- the most recessive base pattern gene.. red duckwing(legbar) is dominant over this but it is common for some partridge to "peek through" and she also lacks the dominant Co gene which means the birds will tend to have the patterned feathers.

Super helpful - thanks!!!! I've got some IDEAS now (we all know how dangerous that is...)

- Ant Farm

I'm going to supply you with some photos of the results of my Bielefelder cockerel cross over a couple of my other breeds, just for reference. All of these are 8 weeks old.

Biel over Buff Silkie - male offspring


Biel over Buff Silkie - female offspring:


You can see that that buff barring is much more prominent in the male than the female, though still apparent in both. I was pleasantly surprised by how strong the buff coloring remained in the Silkie cross. I'm curious to see if any of the other colors and marking customary to the Biels will start seeping through as this flock matures. I'm already seeing deeper red/buff feathers starting to grow in on the males.


And here's my Biel over (black) Australorp cross - male offspring:


Biel over (black) Australorp cross - female offspring:

Obviously the black barring most definitely wins. So far I haven't seen any other colors bleeding through.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

I'm going to supply you with some photos of the results of my Bielefelder cockerel cross over a couple of my other breeds, just for reference. All of these are 8 weeks old.

Biel over Buff Silkie - male offspring


Biel over Buff Silkie - female offspring:


You can see that that buff barring is much more prominent in the male than the female, though still apparent in both. I was pleasantly surprised by how strong the buff coloring remained in the Silkie cross. I'm curious to see if any of the other colors and marking customary to the Biels will start seeping through as this flock matures. I'm already seeing deeper red/buff feathers starting to grow in on the males.


And here's my Biel over (black) Australorp cross - male offspring:


Biel over (black) Australorp cross - female offspring:

Obviously the black barring most definitely wins. So far I haven't seen any other colors bleeding through.

Thanks so much! (They're lovely!!!)

- Ant Farm

 

[Kev]

aaaaaahhhhhh, what a lovely age

make sure you enjoy it!

btw did you find any good idea about nest boxes? my nests are super cheap and I find them useful. I put old tyres, put some wood shavings in it and a big cardboard box over it. I sometimes find 2-3 hens together, lol.

I use covered cat litter boxes. Easy to clean, easy to move- very useful for moving a broody hen to isolation pen. I try to get them in the same color, basically to condition them to regard them as nest boxes and much less fuss if a broody hen's nest has to be changed for whatever reason.