Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[chickengr]

A couple of pictures of some unusual colored ones.



I think this one is a pullet. Not sure what you'd call the color, but
Sire: Cinnamon NN, Columbian with red leakage.
Mom: 1 of two hens, they are sisters out if an EE line hen. A Blue Salmon and what I call a Blue Salmon Splash.
This pullet has blue so one or the other hen us the mother.



This I'm almost certain is a cockerel. I'm assuming a Silver Duckwing. There is a little bit of a red ( dark) leakage on the wing area. I know the same sire for sure and I think from one if the same hens listed above.

@Kev or anyone else for that matter.

Is Silver Duckwing an easy color to add in and work with? What is the best color of hen to put with him.

beautiful birds as usual.

I don't know about the colours but the first one does look like a girl. the second one is confusing, like my jumbo. the wattles are small and pink, could be a girl, but there are like saddle feathers coming up. my jumbo was like that and turned out to be a girl. how old are they?

 

[DesertChic]

Another extra NN cockerel butchered today, and 24 eggs in the incubator...5 of which are from my Bielefelder hens and 6 of which were from my White Rock hens and hopefully fertilized by my largest NN rooster, Shiloh. It'll be like Xmas for me in about 21 days.

 

[chickengr]

Another extra NN cockerel butchered today, and 24 eggs in the incubator...5 of which are from my Bielefelder hens and 6 of which were from my White Rock hens and hopefully fertilized by my largest NN rooster, Shiloh. It'll be like Xmas for me in about 21 days.

good luck!

I would like to get a bielefelder hen but unfortunately nobody wants to sell 1 girl only. they sell pairs and I definitively don't need another roo. my 5 singers disturb all night I am afraid my neighbors will start complaining. they already complain about the dogs (3 of mine, 2 opposite of my house and the other 2 a bit down the road).

 

[Kassaundra]

Shrink wrapping is the membrane drying out becoming to hard for the chick to break through and tightening to the point of suffocating them. I have had it happen w/ broodies, though not nearly as often, usually in dry summer heat and a chick that is taking to long to hatch.

Common "knowledge" is it happens w/ low humidity and violating lock down. I can only speak to my experience (while those conditions certainly can exacerbate it) in my case it happens w/o regard to humidity and w/o opening the incubator. I wish I knew why it happens to all my hatches. I know it isn't my "line" b/c others hatching my chickens eggs don't have the problem, and when I have hatched other then my eggs it still happens.

In the egg there is the chick, then a thin clear membrane that has the blood vessels, then a thicker membrane, then the shell. At the top there is an air cell. When a chick is ready to hatch they break through the inner and outer membrane into the air space this in internal pip. They breathe the air in the cell and rest, you can hear them cheeping. If an egg is closed (no hole) and you hear peeping it has internally pipped. Then the chick breaks a hole in the actual shell, this is external pipping. It should then peck a line roughly at the level of the air sac in a circle, this is zipping, once it has enough shell zipped it can push it's way out.

 

[Phill98]

Shrink wrapping is the membrane drying out becoming to hard for the chick to break through and tightening to the point of suffocating them.  I have had it happen w/ broodies, though not nearly as often, usually in dry summer heat and a chick that is taking to long to hatch. 

Common "knowledge" is it happens w/ low humidity and violating lock down.  I can only speak to my experience (while those conditions certainly can exacerbate it) in my case it happens w/o regard to humidity and w/o opening the incubator.  I wish I knew why it happens to all my hatches.  I know it isn't my "line" b/c others hatching my chickens eggs don't have the problem, and when I have hatched other then my eggs it still happens.

In the egg there is the chick, then a thin clear membrane that has the blood vessels, then a thicker membrane, then the shell.  At the top there is an air cell.  When a chick is ready to hatch they break through the inner and outer membrane into the air space this in internal pip.  They breathe the air in the cell and rest, you can hear them cheeping.  If an egg is closed (no hole) and you hear peeping it has internally pipped.  Then the chick breaks a hole in the actual shell, this is external pipping.  It should then peck a line roughly at the level of the air sac in a circle, this is zipping, once it has enough shell zipped it can push it's way out.

Thanks for explaining everything. Now I understand it all.

Oh and when you said others don't have lroblem hatching your eggs and you have problem hatching other's eggs, maybe your incubator has something to do with it.

 

[draye]

beautiful birds as usual.

I don't know about the colours but the first one does look like a girl. the second one is confusing, like my jumbo. the wattles are small and pink, could be a girl, but there are like saddle feathers coming up. my jumbo was like that and turned out to be a girl. how old are they?

They were 6 weeks old Friday 2/25/2016.
I'm not doubting the sex of that bottom photo, he's coloring up just like a cockerel.
I'm just debating with myself about sheathed to keep him or not.

 

[Kassaundra]

Thanks for explaining everything. Now I understand it all.

Oh and when you said others don't have lroblem hatching your eggs and you have problem hatching other's eggs, maybe your incubator has something to do with it.

Yes, I'm pretty sure it is the incubator too. It is a good quality, good reviews, Brinsea 20. Tested the temps and humidity everything tests out good. The temps are rock solid they don't fluctuate one bit, humidity is a constant battle w/ it. I set my hatch days on days I will be home so I can "birth" the chicks. That is the best I can do for now. I have eggs in now that are nearly half done.

 

[Phill98]

Yes, I'm pretty sure it is the incubator too.  It is a good quality, good reviews, Brinsea 20.  Tested the temps and humidity everything tests out good.  The temps are rock solid they don't fluctuate one bit, humidity is a constant battle w/ it.  I set my hatch days on days I will be home so I can "birth" the chicks.  That is the best I can do for now.  I have eggs in now that are nearly half done.

I have also heard that Brinsea are good incubators. I don't know if incubators are exspensive, but here they are. Especially if you want something durable. Lot of people sell their DIY's, but I don't trust them enough to buy them. So I am currently hatching with broodies and I won't have one for probably next month or two.

So, how many eggs you set?

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Shrink wrapping is the membrane drying out becoming to hard for the chick to break through and tightening to the point of suffocating them. I have had it happen w/ broodies, though not nearly as often, usually in dry summer heat and a chick that is taking to long to hatch.

Common "knowledge" is it happens w/ low humidity and violating lock down. I can only speak to my experience (while those conditions certainly can exacerbate it) in my case it happens w/o regard to humidity and w/o opening the incubator. I wish I knew why it happens to all my hatches. I know it isn't my "line" b/c others hatching my chickens eggs don't have the problem, and when I have hatched other then my eggs it still happens.

In the egg there is the chick, then a thin clear membrane that has the blood vessels, then a thicker membrane, then the shell. At the top there is an air cell. When a chick is ready to hatch they break through the inner and outer membrane into the air space this in internal pip. They breathe the air in the cell and rest, you can hear them cheeping. If an egg is closed (no hole) and you hear peeping it has internally pipped. Then the chick breaks a hole in the actual shell, this is external pipping. It should then peck a line roughly at the level of the air sac in a circle, this is zipping, once it has enough shell zipped it can push it's way out.

Quote: I have a Brinsea (the one with the automatic humidity pump) and it did well. Two ideas:

(1) Have you calibrated the humidity? I know/have read that some of the units have arrived with the humidity reading off (and sometimes the temp reading off). I actually suspect mine might be light that, because my air cells got so big so fast - I had to really up the humidity after day 14 to top growth of the air cells, and I ramped up really high for hatch. I had four that didn't hatch, one of which internally pipped but didn't make it out. A fifth got shrink wrapped - I helped, but the chick could not use its legs, and I decided to euthanize. Got 7 healthy chicks. Meanwhile, I ordered a NIST calibrated thermometer/hygrometer form Thermoworks, and I'm going to recalibrate it before I try hatching again.

(2) If everything is working well up to hatch, perhaps you could hatch in a separate incubator. Better for the longevity of the Brinsea, probably more room (I found the Brinsea to be a bit cramped for hatching), and you might have a better shot at controlling humidity.

Lots of good ideas over on the Incubating with Friends thread (including a lot of folks talking about technical aspects of incubators and solving these sorts of problems, and LOTS of info on calibration)... Incubating with Friends thread

- Ant Farm

 

[DesertChic]

Yes, I'm pretty sure it is the incubator too. It is a good quality, good reviews, Brinsea 20. Tested the temps and humidity everything tests out good. The temps are rock solid they don't fluctuate one bit, humidity is a constant battle w/ it. I set my hatch days on days I will be home so I can "birth" the chicks. That is the best I can do for now. I have eggs in now that are nearly half done.

I actually stopped have shrink wrapping problems when I lowered the humidity for my hatches to 45% for the majority of the time, and then increasing to 65-75% after lockdown. It was suggested to me that the chicks were unable to absorb all of the liquid at higher humidity during development, which also kept the membrane too wet. Have you tried drier hatches?