Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

Well, I thought I had my own housing scenario all figured out...and then I won an auction for Silver Gray Dorking hatching eggs. If I somehow manage to have a decent hatch, I plant to make the SGDs my heritage breed to work with, so not I'll have my NN projects....and a whole new breed to accommodate. Why do I do this to myself?

do I smell a traitor...? ha why the interest in those? just curious.

I have a similar problem.. those darned dwarfs just had to show up in this year's hatch. They are tickling my mad geneticist bone... if the pullets don;t have problems associated with laying, might try to breed them to figure out the genetics. Where to put them though.................

I've decided to part with the barbezieux. Beautiful birds but man, way too birds.

Sometimes I am slightly glad the summers are a killer for so many breeds, keeps on a cap on new breed temptations, ha!

 

[Kev]

Ill sure do that.

I just got it up and going yesterday. I've had two or three that asked to join already I added some of the names myself, they're not breeders or even interested in the NN, just kinfolk and friends that know people and trying to get the word out about the group.

Very cool, people sure need to know they are all too often an unfairly unappreciated breed.

 

[Kev]

Target breeding sure does make for more coops :-D
I was thinking I'd have to process my big red/black cockerel cause I can't afford another coop. Be a shame cause he's bigger and heavier than the white but I can't bring myself to part with the white. Dang chicken math... worries me about their cold hard hardiness, even though everyone says they will be fine.

Yep that's chicken math. Goes on all the time here too.. even right now.

How about holding both roosters and culling after one has produced chicks? Something like breed the red first then cull him and see how his offspring turn out. Might even help improve the size on the whites.

I still get surprised at the idea of NN in cold winter areas. Doesn't seem possible but they really are all over, there even are local NN breeds in eastern European countries- Lublin naked neck in Poland for example. Amazing.

 

[WPFarmstead]

Maybe. I'm looking for a meat breed. I've had khaki, mallards and pekins, then mix crosses. Was thinking moscovy's but heard they can be nasty. Was thinking maybe cayuga. Heard ancona are friendly and good dual purpose. Just read up on harlequins, guess they're friendly also and dual purpose.

I have a lot of ducks...pekins, cayugas, welsh harlequins, khaki campbells, roeuns, mallards, buffs...a lot lol My muscovy hen is my favorite of them all. She does have an attitude, but it's more personality than anything and she keeps every other bird in line, including the geese and turkeys.

 

[Kev]

Eleven days with no one posting on the NN thread? That'll never do. Ha ha.

@Kev

I'm trying to decide on my breeding pens/runs for this coming spring. I'm listing what I'll have available for breeding, I need advise on what to put ( hen) with what ( rooster).

Here is what I have for roosters:
01). Cinnamon (Columbian with red cast).
02) Calico
03). Red Mottled ( not a lot of mottling)
04). Mottled Partridge ( full brother to above rooster).
05). Red Wing Black ( red leakage on a black).
06). Cream Partridge.
07). Spangled Aloha (edited this one, decided to keep him another season).
All the above are Naked Necks except where noted.

Here's a list of the hens.
RED GROUP
7 Red hens.
1 Speckled hen ( like a Speckled Sussex color).
1Blue Tailed Red.

BLACK/BLUE GROUP
3 Black hens
2 Blue hens
1 Blue Mottled hen

WHITE GROUP
3 White hens
1 Black Tailed White

BIRCHEN GROUP
1 Birchen
1 Blue Birchen

BLACK/BLUE COPPER GROUP
5 Black Gold hens
2 Blue Red hens
2 Blue Gold hens

I have the Partridge Groups divided into two groups
Partridge/Mottled Partridge Group:
3 Mottled Partridge hens
3 Partridge hens

The Other Partridge Group
2 Silver Partridge
1Silver ( as in like a Silver Leghorn)
3 Red Partridge hens ( actually Red Sex Linked cross)

I'm trying to avoid too much inbreeding. I've already done some.

Goals are trying to keep a line of Birchen, Red ( Cslico), Mottled Partridge, Black and White. I'd still like to use all to keep lines from becoming to inbred, but most are a little kin to each other anyway.

what do you mean by cream partridge- rooster number 6? Is he a golden- half silver half gold, like Cinnamon is?

Birchen- either Cinnamon or 05 with Birchen and Black/blue copper groups. Keep in mind 05 will not give birchen daughters, only red/gold birchens. The sons will be either yellowish birchen or some might even look like birchen if they are pretty white with no gold showing through. Keep the sons and breed him over either birchen or gold birchen/copper hens for more birchen pullets and pure birchen sons. Cinnamon will throw both birchen and gold birchen daughters but he is not black so the chicks might come out in a range of other colors if the hens are not pure for black or birchen....

As for line of reds, choose the reddest rooster with the red group. Some of the genes for red is dominant. It doesn't matter if they are mottle or not, so don't be afraid to use the mottle is he's the reddest if you also want speckled sussex color or red mottles.

Partidges- they are the most recessive base gene.. the good news you have partridges in both sexes, you will be able to get 100% partridges.

 

[bramblefir]

Maybe. I'm looking for a meat breed. I've had khaki, mallards and pekins, then mix crosses. Was thinking moscovy's but heard they can be nasty. Was thinking maybe cayuga. Heard ancona are friendly and good dual purpose. Just read up on harlequins, guess they're friendly also and dual purpose.

I have a pair of Anconas and while good layers they are a smaller than my Harlequins. My Harlequins have been equally good layers as the Anconas, but have much more heft. The drake I selected for breeding weighed 82 oz at 12 weeks.

I've heard good things about Cayugas for meat but haven't had any myself. Muscovies are really popular here in Oregon and they are great for meat production and brooding. I had a hen for a while until she either got taken by a predator or flew off, which is too bad as I was planning on using her to hatch goose eggs.

 

[Kassaundra]

Started a Naked Neck Facebook Group. Couldn't get a copy if the link so I got a screen shot.

I joined

 

[DesertChic]

I'm sending you some giant eggs in the spring so have fun

I shouldn't laugh, been missing having ducks, had lots of them before we moved to a place with a nice pond, but lots of predators with no more free range dog so no more ducks...
Thinking of fencing in the ducks and putting in invisible fencing for the dogs, might have ducks again this spring....

@Beer can , I would really like to see your giants, there are not many of white ones on the net.

Yep! This is precisely why I plan to buy eggs from @Beer can in the spring. Not only do I love his big birds, but I love those white feathers too! And hey...if I'm going to have my life run by chicken math I may as well add another breed in the process.

 

[draye]

what do you mean by cream partridge- rooster number 6? Is he a golden- half silver half gold, like Cinnamon is?

Birchen- either Cinnamon or 05 with Birchen and Black/blue copper groups. Keep in mind 05 will not give birchen daughters, only red/gold birchens. The sons will be either yellowish birchen or some might even look like birchen if they are pretty white with no gold showing through. Keep the sons and breed him over either birchen or gold birchen/copper hens for more birchen pullets and pure birchen sons. Cinnamon will throw both birchen and gold birchen daughters but he is not black so the chicks might come out in a range of other colors if the hens are not pure for black or birchen....

As for line of reds, choose the reddest rooster with the red group. Some of the genes for red is dominant. It doesn't matter if they are mottle or not, so don't be afraid to use the mottle is he's the reddest if you also want speckled sussex color or red mottles.

Partidges- they are the most recessive base gene.. the good news you have partridges in both sexes, you will be able to get 100% partridges.

That's what I had thought on the most of them, just like you explained.

As far as the Cream Partridge goes: I don't know what his real color is. His mama was the Silver Partridge (GE) NN hen and his daddy was .(he was a little young in this picture). He looked like he was supposed to be a Blue Red, but the red got diluted. This one I'm calling Cream Partridge his back round color is kind of a cream color, so I'm guessing not silver. When I get home tonight I'll see if I can find a picture of the Cream Partridge and post him from my phone.

 

[draye]

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