Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[DesertChic]

One night I accidentally locked my naked necks out of their coop (have to kick 'em out when I clean it, they enthusiastically try to "help" and get in the way) it was down near 0 degrees during the night, they were perfectly fine in the morning, went right into their coop and laid their eggs, so they need no additional heat despite the naked neck, I have also had naked necks in over 120 degree heat and it was no problem at all for them, as long as they have water available. Also, they are a large bird but don't seem to eat as much as the other large breeds do. This is also the only breed I've noted to be easy to herd where you need them, or to follow me around dog-like. They consistently lay when all my other breeds stop for the winter, and they seek attention. If I could get blue, green and chocolate colored eggs from them, I'd never keep any other breed.

I have several NNs that lay green eggs, from mint to olive to pale aqua.

 

[DesertChic]

Hoping you guys can list your favorite things about Naked Necks! Hoping to get 20 chicks sexed for female and 1 male in January. But my mom can't get past the naked neck part

If you go to the "Breeds" tab on this site and read the reviews on Naked Neck Turkens you'll find my very lengthy review in which I sing the praises of this exceptional breed. I'm just too darn busy...and lazy...to type it all out again here.

 

[Kev]

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Me too- from true blue to turquoise right now. Both of the pullets(unfortunately one is not NN) in picture lay turquoise:

 

[Kev]

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I did start on a line of gold laceds but their lacing was not as good as the silvers.. around that time I was needing to reduce the flock, the gold lace line was sacrificed before final completion.

However I noticed you have fibro birds showing signs of genes necessary for lacing present in them.. use those and you will get fibro laceds 'very fast'. I did have fibro silver laced NN but don't believe I showed any pictures of them online...

I would recommend introducing frizzle early on rather than finishing the lacing then doing it over again with introducing frizzle. btw somewhat related in concept- I deliberately introduced blue eggs into the silver and gold laceds for the extra genetic challenge lol.. The very last laced hen is a green egger in fact.

 

[Kev]

Stumbled upon it a few weeks back, it's in PDF format;

http://www.aviculture-europe.nl/nummers/08e04a04.pdf

Unforunately, they don't cite the source of their information, but most of the agreed upon facts about NNs are there, along with plenty of pics, and some cool historical data.

I believe I googled "Naked Neck Chicken research" and it came up towards the bottom of the page,

Awesome find, thanks for sharing. Disappointed it perpeuates the claim of pure NN having featherless necks.. but stoked it mentions the presence of rose combs in early NN! I've known some fanciers who got spitting and cussing mad at the idea of making rose comb acceptable in the Standard. This will be great resource if it comes up again.....

 

[Kev]

@Kev

I have a silver cuckoo marans cockerel. if I cross him to a red Nn hen what colours should I get? I bought her as a chick already feathered out so I don't know what colour she had at hatch. the base of her feathers is cream/whitish.

The hens would be silver cuckoo, roosters would look either silver cuckoo or start out looking like silver cuckoo but show some red or "gold"(yellowish) color on the backs and wings..

They might show a lot more "silver" over their bodies than the silver cuckoo marans. White edging on the breast feathers in particular.

 

[Kev]

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Yeah good point on brabanter vs spitzhauben... this is the silver one I saw online:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3389/3576960776_562df8782b_z.jpg?zz=1

I've noticed what looked like improper crests in both breeds over here- the polish mix style "helmet crest" instead of the wild or forward flipping crests(which I really like so much better..)

Birchen vs wheaten chicks are pretty easy- birchens are dark while wheatens almost reliably are cream or cream with minimal stripe down the head or head plus back. Birchen is dominant so do not save the cream chicks, ha...

btw wheaten likes to remove the black pigments if it can. Bad idea to try lacing, spangling pencilling on wheaten... they can get pretty good patterning on their backs, but the breasts is the big challenge- the markings would tend to be minimal.

 

[lpyrbby]

Yeah good point on brabanter vs spitzhauben... this is the silver one I saw online:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3389/3576960776_562df8782b_z.jpg?zz=1

I've noticed what looked like improper crests in both breeds over here- the polish mix style "helmet crest" instead of the wild or forward flipping crests(which I really like so much better..)

Birchen vs wheaten chicks are pretty easy- birchens are dark while wheatens almost reliably are cream or cream with minimal stripe down the head or head plus back. Birchen is dominant so do not save the cream chicks, ha...

btw wheaten likes to remove the black pigments if it can. Bad idea to try lacing, spangling pencilling on wheaten... they can get pretty good patterning on their backs, but the breasts is the big challenge- the markings would tend to be minimal.

I've been reading through this: http://kippenjungle.nl/basisEN.htm and other places to get my bearings straight on what to look for, so I'll be especially excited if I get some dark NNs from this hatch. Anyone's guess though. I'll ask the girl what she has in her flock that might contribute if any of them do hatch out NN. The eggs she gave me are a very light olive green, at least when compared with my EE and the Ameraucana eggs I got to hatch. We shall see! Just 5 more days to go!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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How interesting, esp. as my Snape has a Rose comb....

 

[Georgia Boy 1970]

I did start on a line of gold laceds but their lacing was not as good as the silvers..  around that time I was needing to reduce the flock, the gold lace line was sacrificed before final completion.

However I noticed you have fibro birds showing signs of genes necessary for lacing present in them..  use those and you will get fibro laceds 'very fast'.    I did have fibro silver laced NN but don't believe I showed any pictures of them online...

I would recommend introducing frizzle early on rather than finishing the lacing then doing it over again with introducing frizzle.    btw somewhat related in concept- I deliberately introduced blue eggs into the silver and gold laceds for the extra genetic challenge lol..    The very last laced hen is a green egger in fact.

Thanks Kev I have green egg layers in my flock.I don't think any of my naked necks are them but it possible that my naked neck roosters carry the gene.Those laced naked necks that I posted are polish crosses.Didn't think about using them,thanks for the suggestion.