Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

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x2 despite her genetic fault (not NN)

 

[Kassaundra]

Yeah...... think we have figured out the """"infertility issue"""""".........

that color and pattern combination is.. something lol Have you tried zebra pattern? I tried a doggie clothing that had a zebra pattern.. the bird completely flipped out extremely bad... got the whole flock bawking lol

p.s. that looks like one of the better designs though. How do you like it?

Yes one of the best designs so far. I had not tried zebra yet. The do get their beaks bent out of shape easily w/ color and pattern!

 

[Kev]

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Haha yeah tried a few roosters. they do vary in how they 'respond'. some really fight and resist it even with multiple tries, others resist then you can eventually get samples. some um.. give freely from the first go.

ah yeah I had the same concerns- would not handle the cx at all for fear of making them drop dead. definitely would not have moved them to an established group for sure. Can you somehow arrange it so Vader visits her without any other rooster around? problem is he probably would rather breed any other hens present instead of her... Ah well.. really hoping you get surprised with fertile cross eggs!

 

[DesertChic]

Yes one of the best designs so far. I had not tried zebra yet. The do get their beaks bent out of shape easily w/ color and pattern!

Leopard print. If you want him to start mating more, you've got to go with the leopard print.

 

[Kev]

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It looks great. Haha yep.. they need to go on a fashion judging panel, what with their super critical eyes!

 

[Kassaundra]

Haha yeah tried a few roosters. they do vary in how they 'respond'. some really fight and resist it even with multiple tries, others resist then you can eventually get samples. some um.. give freely from the first go.

ah yeah I had the same concerns- would not handle the cx at all for fear of making them drop dead. definitely would not have moved them to an established group for sure. Can you somehow arrange it so Vader visits her without any other rooster around? problem is he probably would rather breed any other hens present instead of her... Ah well.. really hoping you get surprised with fertile cross eggs!

I have an isolated big dog kennel I could put them both in for a bit, would he breed her if I put them in first thing in the morning (easier to catch him while still in the coop) and would she let him?

 

[Kev]

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Good question, I have not tried something like this.. it was always a bird visiting the other in their own pen. I'd be afraid to catch and carry the cross hen too..

 

[Kassaundra]

Good question, I have not tried something like this.. it was always a bird visiting the other in their own pen. I'd be afraid to catch and carry the cross hen too..

She doesn't run or try to avoid us at all. Just offer her a food treat and your golden!!!!! lol lol lol

 

[Kassaundra]

I could also set it up where it would be in the big coop, or in the yard for much less "travel" being carried. I might have to try this supervised

 

[islafarm]

@Kev

"In that case the showgirls will be rather easy. A little trick.. breed non fibro birds with blue/slate legs if you can. It's because green and slate legs mean the birds do not have the Id gene, it inhibits pigments in a specific layer of skin, causing the legs to come out either yellow or white. It also messes with fibro.... however it is sex linked so you can do things like yellow/white leg rooster over fibro hens for pullets showing black skins but the cockerels will have a range of nearly normal looking skin despite having fibro or weird things like patches of black/grey skin or a pale gray skin. You can use those cockerels for fibro breeding but these will throw Id into both sexes.

some feather colors and patterns are not good for fibro projects like mottle, barring because they also have the side effect of lightening up the skin. Black, birchen and partridge are the best ones for as dark skin as possible. You can make black skin whites by breeding recessive white with the blacks, this will help with black skinned whites.

that white oeg with slate legs.. look inside her vent and mouth and also if her skin is still thin, look through her skin in her arm pit area and underside of the wing. If everything is very flesh colored, probably not but fibro can vary so widely in how it shows perhaps she will surprise you but..

p.s. breeding with yellow skin/green legs can eventually lead to fibro with a distinct green tint to the skin. Most people don;t care for that.. if you like or want to see it, then breeding with green legged birds would be better rather than yellow legged birds due to Id in the latter."

very interesting and informative! The white oeg is pink all the way around, so she has no fibro? I have a young cockerel that fits your descrption of the sex linked cross: he has grey skin and his legs are patches of almost black and light grey. He looks birchen in his feathering. But he is carrying id. . . The other young cockerel I'm interested in keeping is white but with barring on tail and patches on his wings, funny that that will work against my fibro dreams.

So much to learn . . .

thanks so much!

Ancel