Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Knock Kneed Hen]

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Hi! Depends on if he is BB barred or Bb barred.
BB barred = *all barred offspring.
Bb barred = *50% barred offspring (regardless of gender).
*He will give the barring gene to his offspring.
If the hen is barred she gives the barring gene to only her male offspring.

Lisa

Thanks for helping me "see" this. Barred isn't my favorite color and both my cockerels are barred, albeit Bb.

Do you have any lavenders with black skin? I'd love to see a picture of a grown bird with this combination.
Thanks for sharing your chick pics.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Nitrostreak , that chick has the same look my 7 yr. old boy does: "Hmmm....I'm going to get into trouble but it'll be worth it!"

Very cute pics.

Niclandia , love the lemon buff hen. Isn't it fun to see what they have hatch out?!!

Maralpz2006 , I hope my little white hen will look like yours!

You've got one of every color! Did you plan it that way or just get lucky? Beautiful birds

Dipsy , I have just two words for you: Dial up?

 

[maralpz2006]

knock kneed hen , well i was plan it to have different colors, but the white one hatched and i didnt plan that, tha same thing with the cuckoo , but i still want some more colors

 

[Kev]

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You have to show us when the project is done! I've never seen large fowl cochins with naked necks.

 

[nicalandia]

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You have to show us when the project is done! I've never seen large fowl cochins with naked necks.

I'll do it...

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it helps them alot down here in Central America where its ALWAYS HOT..!

 

[Kev]

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They are completely different genes. Blue breeds in the usual black-blue- splash. What it does is mainly dilute black to blue. It does not dilute red/gold pigments very much. Blue wheatens etc are examples of this- their black tails and hackle striping gets diluted to blue(or splash) while the red/gold body is mostly 'unaffected'.

Lavender is recessive and "breeds true". (example, if you bred lavender to a black, all chicks would be black, unlike blue- breeding a blue to black gives you 50/50 blacks and blues) It also has many names- lavender(both used for a self colored lavender and the gene itself), self blue, porcelain.... It dilutes ALL pigments, black, red/gold. Example: porcelain is really just a mille fleur with lavender added. Another difference is that lavenders are very even colored- hackles and saddles on lav roos are same shade on body. Hackles and saddles normally are much darker than the body on blue roosters.

 

[maralpz2006]

nicalandia where are you from , i believe from nicaragua, im from costa rica

 

[nicalandia]

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I am from Nicaragua, Managua and you? San Jose?

 

[Kev]

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Lisa already answered the barring question. He is not blue barred, it's just an side effect of barring that sometimes happens. Basically, birds with crisp black and white barring have other, unrelated genes that "happen" to help barring express itself in a more distinct way- the grayish color is basically the barring "bleeding" a little bit into the black areas.

If you'd like to get rid of barring, either roo will do as both are Bb. Both will produce 50% non-barred sons, if you replace with one of those- it will be 'gone forever' from the flock. Keep in mind that lavender apparently sometimes hides barring for a while... he sure had me fooled!

I'd go with other traits you want the most, not worry too much about the barring for now.. things like do you want more lavenders? Guaranteed lavender split offspring from all hens? L'K would be the choice for that. Steve would only pass on the lavender gene to half of the offspring with the other hens & you would not be able to tell which ones are lavender carriers or not. (mentioned this because it seems you'd like more lavs?)

You do have my understanding.. constantly have to think about choices like that when it comes to choosing birds for breeding... sometimes it's REALLY hard.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Pictures of my little ones from May hatch...

Got these eggs from Muggs as part of an experiment