Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[flower]

Looks like it's going to be a beautiful day across the country!

It is not here We needed the rain to prevent fires and wash pollen away, but it has been dreary and will be for a few days. The rain has also brought cooler weather, which has messed up my plans of keeping the four week olds outside. I'm kinda tired of chicks in the house

Oh DO I know what you mean about chicks in the house ! Looks like it will be another month before I am free of chicken dust ! ugh but it is worth it I guess. At least they will not need to be inside for very long as summer is here and the rain, what there was of it is most likely gone for months. And after one more incubation cycle that should do it for this year. But still it was a beautiful day here in sunny sunny southern california.

 

[homeschoolchick]

Flower.....do you have chicks in your room? THAT is where mine are

I love watching them hatch and grow, but majorly sick of stink and dander. I clean the brooders every day, occasionally every other, but those cecal poos are STRONG!!


I am wanting Barred NNs, but I am debating whether or not to wait until next year because of the bedroom situation. I would really like to have all the varieties I want now so I can let them grow up now and then just hatch my own after that.


KKH or DDD......was it one of you that said you would have barreds available sometime around now? Someone said they were putting a barred cochin with their hens. KKH, do you have a barred NN roo with black or barred hens?


Does it make more sense to get my pens established now and then hatch my own later, or does it matter and then I could put bought eggs under broodies? I am debating, because this would be my last incubation of the year, and hopefully my last because I would much rather let broodies do it (although I do like having the chicks friendly from the start). I am leaning towards getting barreds and then being done with my color varieties and having my pens established, then when they go broody, just let them hatch a few for fun.
Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[Kassaundra]

Flower.....do you have chicks in your room? THAT is where mine are

I love watching them hatch and grow, but majorly sick of stink and dander. I clean the brooders every day, occasionally every other, but those cecal poos are STRONG!!


I am wanting Barred NNs, but I am debating whether or not to wait until next year because of the bedroom situation. I would really like to have all the varieties I want now so I can let them grow up now and then just hatch my own after that.


KKH or DDD......was it one of you that said you would have barreds available sometime around now? Someone said they were putting a barred cochin with their hens. KKH, do you have a barred NN roo with black or barred hens?


Does it make more sense to get my pens established now and then hatch my own later, or does it matter and then I could put bought eggs under broodies? I am debating, because this would be my last incubation of the year, and hopefully my last because I would much rather let broodies do it (although I do like having the chicks friendly from the start). I am leaning towards getting barreds and then being done with my color varieties and having my pens established, then when they go broody, just let them hatch a few for fun.
Anyone have any thoughts?

If it were me I'd do it all at once, especially since you don't intend to brood them later just let your broodies do it. That way all the dust and dander are done with, no worries about quarantine large birds, they can grow up together don't have to worry about introducing new ones to an established flock.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

  


KKH or DDD......was it one of you that said you would have barreds available sometime around now?  Someone said they were putting a barred cochin with their hens.  KKH, do you have a barred NN roo with black or barred hens?

Hi,
I have a bantam blue barred roo who carries black and lavender genes. My only black hen is a frizzle and is sitting on eggs right now. She's from DDD stock. I have one other black hen, she's a bantam but not tiny. She has a tiny bit of gold on her wings and has gold "eyebrows" ...thus the name Goldie. She has a small bow tie. The other bird in the pen that might interest you is a splash frizzle from DDD stock.

 

[homeschoolchick]

Kassaundra - I am leaning with what you are thinking. I tried to explain to my husband why I would like to get all the colors/varieties I was interested in now. He thinks I am silly, but he also doesn't like building coops

I would like everyone with in a few months apart for record keeping too.


KKH- I'm sorry, the barring is slightly confusing to me when you add splash. What kind of barring would come out of your pen? Can you see the barring on splash? or would that produce blue, black and splash with barring? I still get confused about male or female mating with barred and what the outcome is. I think it is better to put a barred male with solid or barred females, right?/

 

[Urte]

Hi,
Sorry I'm a little late for the genetics class, I have a question: From two parents with quite a big bow tie, what % of the chicks will be 100% bare neck or have very few feahers?
Or how many generations, making some kind of back-cross to one of the parents or between siblings to get fully naked necks?

 

[Alyce birdbrain]

Welcome to so CA! Yeah I'm in Sun City/Menifee area. It was 101 here today.
lots shade(planting desert tolerant trees would be great idea), lots water and shelter are important. don't use blue tarp over pens/dog runs. if using tarp, use the dark ones with tighter weave- usually brown/silver colored. some people freeze water in liter bottles, mine never used those though...
it's much easier to avoid ultra heavy breeds, heavily feathered breeds, especially if feather legged also...
some dual purpose hens do ok- RIR do all right. turkens any size do great of course, even if quite large/heavy. light breeds like leghorns, anconas etc do fine.
if the birds are not super heavy or feathered, they will move fine. just be sure to have well shaded and ventilated pen.

When I get established I will look you up. Maybe we can trade birds or something. I am looking for some variety to my NN. Thanks for the information though. I think I know which birds I am going to give to my neighbors now. I don't know if my turkey is going to be happy there though and I don't think my daughter will give him up. I have lots of nice trees for them on my property so shade should be no problem. We are buying a mineral water retreat in Morongo Valley so they will be living in style with nice sail shades and a good looking house and a very large run area.

 

[Alyce birdbrain]

Oh DO I know what you mean about chicks in the house ! Looks like it will be another month before I am free of chicken dust ! ugh but it is worth it I guess. At least they will not need to be inside for very long as summer is here and the rain, what there was of it is most likely gone for months. And after one more incubation cycle that should do it for this year. But still it was a beautiful day here in sunny sunny southern california.

Mine are in my bathtub so we are taking showers at my friends house.

 

[Kev]

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When I get established I will look you up. Maybe we can trade birds or something. I am looking for some variety to my NN. Thanks for the information though. I think I know which birds I am going to give to my neighbors now. I don't know if my turkey is going to be happy there though and I don't think my daughter will give him up. I have lots of nice trees for them on my property so shade should be no problem. We are buying a mineral water retreat in Morongo Valley so they will be living in style with nice sail shades and a good looking house and a very large run area.

Mineral springs? very cool. the turkey should be fine if it's a heritage breed. they have bare head/neck with a big wattle for more cooling surface area... also peafowl do fine up there,so....

 

[Kev]

Hi,
Sorry I'm a little late for the genetics class, I have a question: From two parents with quite a big bow tie, what % of the chicks will be 100% bare neck or have very few feahers?
Or how many generations, making some kind of back-cross to one of the parents or between siblings to get fully naked necks?

tsk tsk, late for class. 25% from that pair. just one or two generations- breed a bare/tiny bowtie to any big bowtie and you will get half bare/tiny bowties. once you have male and female bare/tiny bowties, they will be 'true breeding'.