Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[flower]

What size is the NN part of the mix. I am interested in the tiny NNs because I have two tiny NN hens. But no male ?

 

[Kev]

Who you asking? I bet that person with the awesome little roo... wonder if the original seller had more..?

btw, most dwarfism is sex linked and more or less simple. Meaning you could breed your hens with any small roo even if not tiny with your hens, keep a son then breed him with tiny hens and should be a percentage of dwarfs in both sexes.

I've crossed bantam with standard size, the offspring were generally mid sized. breeding this generation together produced birds of all sizes from standard, to medium to bantams including a few really small ones.

What size is the NN part of the mix. I am interested in the tiny NNs because I have two tiny NN hens. But no male ?

 

[aoxa]

Who you asking? I bet that person with the awesome little roo... wonder if the original seller had more..?

btw, most dwarfism is sex linked and more or less simple. Meaning you could breed your hens with any small roo even if not tiny with your hens, keep a son then breed him with tiny hens and should be a percentage of dwarfs in both sexes.

I've crossed bantam with standard size, the offspring were generally mid sized. breeding this generation together produced birds of all sizes from standard, to medium to bantams including a few really small ones.

The NNs I had - all girls were 1/2 the size of the boys. Maybe 2/3rds the size.. But they were definitely noticeably smaller. From early on too.

 

[Kev]

The NNs I had - all girls were 1/2 the size of the boys. Maybe 2/3rds the size.. But they were definitely noticeably smaller. From early on too.

Yeah interesting isn't it? I don't know why in some breeds or lines the males are either so much bigger or not that much bigger than the hens. Doesn't have to do with dwarfism- variable sexual dimorphism.

My first brahmas had males easily twice the size and height of the hens. seemed the hens could walk under those roosters. the poor hens looked squashed every time they bred..

 

[Flowerbh]

Backside of my little BB (Bare Bottom). She is my little 4 week old NN. She got so cold I had to put her back in the brooder with 1 week olds. Under those swooping feathers on the bottom of her back....she is bare bottomed. Noone ever replied about whether anyone had a pattern for chicken outfits! LOL

 

[Kassaundra]

Backside of my little BB (Bare Bottom). She is my little 4 week old NN. She got so cold I had to put her back in the brooder with 1 week olds. Under those swooping feathers on the bottom of her back....she is bare bottomed. Noone ever replied about whether anyone had a pattern for chicken outfits! LOL

I have no pattern and wonder if as she grows she will be able to adjust her temps well enough to manage w/o clothes????

 

[aoxa]

Backside of my little BB (Bare Bottom). She is my little 4 week old NN. She got so cold I had to put her back in the brooder with 1 week olds. Under those swooping feathers on the bottom of her back....she is bare bottomed. Noone ever replied about whether anyone had a pattern for chicken outfits! LOL

Does she have double dose of the frizzle?

So cute.. Mine were naked like this (the girls) for quite some time. They looked ridiculous! But not this naked.

 

[aoxa]

Yeah interesting isn't it? I don't know why in some breeds or lines the males are either so much bigger or not that much bigger than the hens. Doesn't have to do with dwarfism- variable sexual dimorphism.

My first brahmas had males easily twice the size and height of the hens. seemed the hens could walk under those roosters. the poor hens looked squashed every time they bred..

They were the only breed I kept that had such a notable size difference.

Brian was the size of a standard plymouth rock, and the girls were just a bit bigger than a silkie (though a good 2-3 pounds heavier).


Here is a good example. These two were girls

 

[Flowerbh]

Does she have double dose of the frizzle?

So cute.. Mine were naked like this (the girls) for quite some time. They looked ridiculous! But not this naked.

Someone told me she was NaNa but I'm not sure what that is. This poor little one has no feathers on her stomach, butt and those naked stripes from her neck down to her butt on either side of her mohawk! And she is frizzled.

Here she is right after she was born...

 

[Kev]

NaNa means pure for naked neck. There's a visible difference between birds pure(NaNa) and not pure(Nana) for naked neck.

Is she pea combed? If so, she has three things going on- pure for naked neck plus pea comb also reduces the overall number of feathers so this makes them 'more naked' or less feathered plus frizzle is not good at insulating. If she is going to be smaller than usual that can be another thing as smaller bodies have a harder time retaining heat than larger, heavier bodies.

aoxa asked good question- birds pure for frizzle gene are called 'frazzles' and their feathers are even more affected also essentially makes them even less insulated. Frazzles are the reason two frizzles should never be bred together, only frizzle to a straight feather.

Backside of my little BB (Bare Bottom). She is my little 4 week old NN. She got so cold I had to put her back in the brooder with 1 week olds. Under those swooping feathers on the bottom of her back....she is bare bottomed. Noone ever replied about whether anyone had a pattern for chicken outfits! LOL