Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[hennotrooster]

Here is my example of dominant white. Hard to believe this bird was all white when hatched You called it Kev! Isn't he handsome? His father was a NN.





Here is the father.

You're a wonderful photographer and your subjects are beautiful.

 

[aoxa]

You're a wonderful photographer and your subjects are beautiful.

Thank you so much!

 

[hennotrooster]

I'm so tired of everyone picking on my Bertha. Does anyone else have to deal with people calling your NN ugly?

I was just in the last couple of weeks given 4 chickens 2 roos and 2 hens that were left behind and the family across the street gave them to us. One is a NN roo. I let him stay behind for a week before they brought him over...I.

did not want that uugly rooster. Well he is part of the flock and has taken control of the girls, fighting is minimal now, did not have time to quarantine him since he and my girls hit it off instantly and I could not catch him to do so. Long story short Marty is a beautiful roo my husband calls his chest area, under his bow tie, a suit of armor. My Marty, after taking the time to stand and really get a good look at him, is not so uugly after all. People that look only at the forest miss all the beauty in the trees, same for our NN's so love him. Here he is. I am waiting for his wings to grow back out the previous owner clipped them.

 

[hennotrooster]

Ranking is pretty important in most social animals. The ways they use to decide and maintain ranking does seem very mean to us.

Pretty much just have to let them fight it out to get all the rank settled.. best to let them fight it out on free range if you let them out that way the loser will be able to escape. As long as there's no blood it's normal fight. For a bit after a fight, the winner will be bit obnoxious about reminding the loser about the status but after a while it will become stable and at most the signs will be a bop on the head if another gets too close at feeding time. However separating them and letting back together will mess up their rank chart and so there will be some fighting again, same with introducing new birds.

The new pictures of the other roo I am definitely seeing Game traits.. the thing about games is they naturally are much more excitable and "spirited"(nice word for 'aggressive') including the hens. When they fight, they fight much much harder than any of the usual backyard chicken. In mixes the spirit is not as strong but still can be stronger than non-game breeds so when they fight, they fight a little harder but not as extreme as pure games. Just letting you know so you're aware and don't think all roosters and chickens are so fighty and flighty like these. I suspect some of your hens have game blood in them also.

Unfortunately, one of your birds has scaly foot- the brown hen with the black roo. It's a mite that infests the skin on the legs. It's why her legs and toes are all bumpy and fat. Fortunately, it is easy to treat. Two main ways- regular applications of anything sticky/oily like vaseline, dog flea shampoo, even cooking sprays- this works by smothering the mites so they cannot breathe and die off. Will need to do this several times a week for two or three weeks. The other way is to get a dewormer that also works on mites like ivermectin(common brand name is Ivomec but it's way expensive, just look for generic ivermectin or any dewormer that uses it) either applied orally or topically. This one might be easier if you want to treat the entire flock- won't hurt them and is good idea anyways to deworm/demite new birds and if one has it, chances are the others do too. btw no need to panic or feed bad- it's VERY common and widespread.. almost every one in the fancy eventually comes across it or sees it somewhere.

Kev your right about the brown hen and the roo both have the mites. I have been putting lots of oil on the legs and feet and the hen is show much improvement will post a pic when I get one. The roo was given away today he is very aggressive with the little brown hen and her back is pretty wore out. Marty is a much gentler roo. I started to treat with a day or two of getting them and she no longer will stand on one leg the (what I assume to be) swelling is almost all gone now. The roo looks normal but is now gone. Marty is the roo I choose to keep. That white hen is going to be the one to fight for position. she has already so how am I to do this? She is pretty good little fighter as I said before she got into the main yard and laid into Phoebe (she is in my avatar) who is top hen but she is not aggressive. She will fight back but I think this is a fight she will lose. I do not want to see her get hurt do I stay near by to make sure they are not taking it too far.? Any type of violence just turns my stomach. Should I put them in at night I have read that is the best way to do this. Am really nervous want to do this next week. Oh I have dusted all the hens and treated them all since Marty made himself at home with no separation time.

 

[Kev]

Kev your right about the brown hen and the roo both have the mites. I have been putting lots of oil on the legs and feet and the hen is show much improvement will post a pic when I get one. The roo was given away today he is very aggressive with the little brown hen and her back is pretty wore out. Marty is a much gentler roo. I started to treat with a day or two of getting them and she no longer will stand on one leg the (what I assume to be) swelling is almost all gone now. The roo looks normal but is now gone. Marty is the roo I choose to keep. That white hen is going to be the one to fight for position. she has already so how am I to do this? She is pretty good little fighter as I said before she got into the main yard and laid into Phoebe (she is in my avatar) who is top hen but she is not aggressive. She will fight back but I think this is a fight she will lose. I do not want to see her get hurt do I stay near by to make sure they are not taking it too far.? Any type of violence just turns my stomach. Should I put them in at night I have read that is the best way to do this. Am really nervous want to do this next week. Oh I have dusted all the hens and treated them all since Marty made himself at home with no separation time.

First, the birds were very lucky to find an excellent home with you! Second glad you had already noticed a problem and was treating it. I admit to hesitating a little bit before commenting on the legs. Awesome you already knew about and dusted all of them. I'm impressed if these are all your first chickens?

Personally would not put them together at night, they will fight in the morning when every body comes down off the roosts. That's an unsupervised fight in a confined space if you aren't there. Free range would be best way for them to meet without any barrier between them. Very sorry.. you do have to let them settle the ranking order and only way to prevent that totally is to keep them separated forever.

Sometimes having them right next to each other for a good while will keep the fight to a minimum.. but some hens get really aggravated by the ranking not settled to completion and so they build up a 'war' between the wire and really go at it once they finally meet. That white hen was the one I thought to have some game blood in her, likely game and easter egger mix. Not surprised she's showing a dominant personality.

I'd be curious how others handle the meeting of adult birds?

 

[Nava]

First, the birds were very lucky to find an excellent home with you!  Second glad you had already noticed a problem and was treating it.  I admit to hesitating a little bit before commenting on the legs.  Awesome you already knew about and dusted all of them. I'm impressed if these are all your first chickens?

Personally would not put them together at night, they will fight in the morning when every body comes down off the roosts. That's an unsupervised fight in a confined space if you aren't there.  Free range would be best way for them to meet without any barrier between them. Very sorry.. you do have to let them settle the ranking order and only way to prevent that totally is to keep them separated forever.

Sometimes having them right next to each other for a good while will keep the fight to a minimum.. but some hens get really aggravated by the ranking not settled to completion and so they build up a 'war' between the wire and really go at it once they finally meet.  That white hen was the one I thought to have some game blood in her, likely game and easter egger mix.  Not surprised she's showing a dominant personality.

I'd be curious how others handle the meeting of adult birds? 

I agree with you kev, let them meet out in the yard.

In glad mine aren't mixed with game birds, they settle the ranking right away, with the exception of one of my black nn Roos he beat up my big-ole Orp so bad that he died next day,

I was do mad thAt I ate that one, I know...... But I was really upset.

I'm glad to see a lot more people with NNs and that is good, I'm also working on my web site, hoping to help make the nn breed more noticeable.

And if ANY. One out there has any buffs for sale PLEASE let me know I would sure like to own something I can get a good start with, that is the only color I'm lacking. please.....

TY Nava

 

[PsycoPeep]

Hmm, okay, thanks for the info. And all those pics are wonderfully gorgeous!

 

[PsycoPeep]

Finally! Pics of my new birds I got last week and new pics of the older partridge. All of these are pullets. (unless sexed wrong, of course)


Splash silkie & partridge TNN.



My last Showgirl.




IDK what color NN's these are. White? But when I open their wings, they have beige or tan laced in them. Any idea what color these girls might end up being? Will the color molt out and they'll actually be white? I'm also posting 2 pics of them together so you can see one has a bowtie and the other a clean neck w/more of a bare breast.









Here are my NN darkies!!!



I think this one's a mottled. It's wings, face, beak & legs are a mix of both colors.


My older partridge girl: (this IS partridge, right?)



The next 3 pics IDK what color it is. Bronzy? They're very pretty! Due to the fact that their heads are rusty looking as well as the wings, I'm hoping that they turn out that way and don't loose it. Anyone know what color it is?







This one's supposed to be black. But will the lighter color inthe wings, face, bowtie, and belly all molt out?

 

[draye]

"IDK what color NN's these are. White? But when I open their wings, they have beige or tan laced in them. Any idea what color these girls might end up being? Will the color molt out and they'll actually be white? I'm also posting 2 pics of them together so you can see one has a bowtie and the other a clean neck w/more of a bare breast."




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Look back through the thread, I think these are going to be what I call Salmon. Look for Kassaundra's Mensa. I think that will be the color of those and most likely pullets.

 

[Kassaundra]

"IDK what color NN's these are. White? But when I open their wings, they have beige or tan laced in them. Any idea what color these girls might end up being? Will the color molt out and they'll actually be white? I'm also posting 2 pics of them together so you can see one has a bowtie and the other a clean neck w/more of a bare breast." //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Look back through the thread, I think these are going to be what I call Salmon. Look for Kassaundra's Mensa. I think that will be the color of those and most likely pullets.

Well that is great, Mensa is pretty. I need to post some new pics, I have taken some, but haven't had a chance to reduce the file size yet.