Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

That pretty obvious, great!

Took me a minute to find the pics but here they are This one has the gene this one does not.

 

[Kassaundra]

These are adults, very easy on adults or almost adults, chicks are a lot harder. I have one that I didn't even know was Sc carrier until she was pretty big, and I had been looking and hoping since hatch. This last hatch is only about 2 weeks, and I have 3 I pretty much know already.

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

I didn't know that about birchen. I have several blue naked neck guys down there that could be called birchen --- I just call them 'leaky' and don't use them for breeding. If Allison is still breeding sl Polish, I might borrow a rooster from her to breed with this pullet (if it's a pullet). S/he hatched with blue down, the silver didn't show up till it started feathering out. Or do you have another suggestion. Thanks!

Hi! Glad to be here : ) Got one that is a puzzlement to me, maybe you know 'how'. This youngster is from a solid black hen that is a silver laced Polish x Silkie cross. The hen is dark-skinned, crested, and clean-legged. She is the only bird here that is split to laced. The father of the youngster has got to be a blue or splash Naked Neck (it could be one of many). I can see lacing (poor lacing), but I didn't think it was possible for it to show ???? I love the way it looks, but it is mysterious.

Oooh are you getting tempted to work with lacing? Her tail being white with signs of lacing indicates she is probably Birchen base. If you put lacing genes on a birchen base bird, you get birds with lacing on the tails too- like on sebrights, polish. (wyandottes are on partridge base- that is why their tails are black, not laced) A lot of solid black chickens are actually birchen or half birchen half extended black with extra genes to fill in the 'birchen color areas'. It's possible the father was either a birchen or birchen carrier black.. this gene combined with the birchen from the polish grandmother created this bird pure for birchen.. with some of the genes necessary for lacing also present is the cause of the partial lacing all over her. Is she possibly blue? could create a line of blue laced silvers from her very easily as she has the foundation plus some of the desired genes already....

 

[theuglyduckling]

Thank you so much! Actually, I forgot to mention about the feathers. They look upside down! Here are a couple of pics I managed to get of him with his hatchmate who is the same age

one of my nn chicks that is so far white from what i can tell is growing in its feathers slower than the rest of the chicks too and he/she is the runt too. he/she isn't anything like yours size wise compared to your other chick, but he/she is the runt and just has the wing feathers coming in while the others have the wing tail and parts of their body feathers. i am hoping it is a pullet. so far (just me guessing, going by body size) i have 5 pullets and 2 roos.

 

[flower]

You guys with all this talk about genes..AHHHH! All I know about genes are Wrangler /Levis / Gloria Vanderbelt.....

If you had been reading this thread for a long time, you would have a large amount of information as there are many intelligent and knowledgeable posts from the self-educated peeps

 

[froggiesheins]

If you had been reading this thread for a long time, you would have a large amount of information as there are many intelligent and knowledgeable posts from the self-educated peeps 

Hi flower!
Yes, there is SO much good info on "jeans" here, but truth be told, I am just into chickens for the fun of it!
I have a banty NN hen that has the most OVER THE TOP / COOL FRIENDLY personality and I am hatching her eggs every so often. Her MAN is my friendly- personality plus serama boy and that is about the extent of my gene work...

 

[Kev]

You guys with all this talk about genes..AHHHH! All I know about genes are Wrangler /Levis / Gloria Vanderbelt.....

Levi is the oldest and most dominant gene. It's found all over the world and very common.

Wrangler is a gene mutation and seems to be more limited in range.. usually kept in free range situations also. Perhaps this gene is linked to better survival in rural situations?

Both are not sex linked and Levi is dominant over Wrangler. There are modifiers to those genes- main ones being zipper and button. Studies of genes have shown the zipper was the originial modifier but button has since become perhaps more common. Button seems to be dominant in association with the Levi gene, more ambiguous with the Wrangler gene, seems strongly recessive with Vanderbilt, however more gene studies need to be done on this.

With the widespread study and use of genes, especially by the young of each generation, more gene variations have been discovered and cultivated giving rise to gene types. Older new types are 'boot cut', 'straight fit' etc.. with more recent discoveries being called 'baggy', 'slim', 'skinny'. 'Relaxed fit' is dominant over these however current stock trend has been selection towards 'skinny'.

In the ancestral gene stock, color range was very limited- blue, black and very uncommonly, white. Newer colors have appeared- red, turquoise, yellow etc. Blue and black is dominant over all newer colors and remain the most common as a result.

Vanderbilt is a newer, sex linked gene. To date, no males of this gene has been discovered. Possibly sex linked lethal?

 

[Kassaundra]

Levi is the oldest and most dominant gene. It's found all over the world and very common.

Wrangler is a gene mutation and seems to be more limited in range.. usually kept in free range situations also. Perhaps this gene is linked to better survival in rural situations?

Both are not sex linked and Levi is dominant over Wrangler. There are modifiers to those genes- main ones being zipper and button. Studies of genes have shown the zipper was the originial modifier but button has since become perhaps more common. Button seems to be dominant in association with the Levi gene, more ambiguous with the Wrangler gene, seems strongly recessive with Vanderbilt, however more gene studies need to be done on this.

With the widespread study and use of genes, especially by the young of each generation, more gene variations have been discovered and cultivated giving rise to gene types. Older new types are 'boot cut', 'straight fit' etc.. with more recent discoveries being called 'baggy', 'slim', 'skinny'. 'Relaxed fit' is dominant over these however current stock trend has been selection towards 'skinny'.

In the ancestral gene stock, color range was very limited- blue, black and very uncommonly, white. Newer colors have appeared- red, turquoise, yellow etc. Blue and black is dominant over all newer colors and remain the most common as a result.

Vanderbilt is a newer, sex linked gene. To date, no males of this gene has been discovered. Possibly sex linked lethal?

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

 

Levi is the oldest and most dominant gene. It's found all over the world and very common.

Wrangler is a gene mutation and seems to be more limited in range.. usually kept in free range situations also.  Perhaps this gene is linked to better survival in rural situations?

Both are not sex linked and Levi is dominant over Wrangler.   There are modifiers to those genes- main ones being zipper and button.  Studies of genes have shown the zipper was the originial modifier but button has since become perhaps more common.  Button seems to be dominant in association with the Levi gene,  more ambiguous with the Wrangler gene, seems strongly recessive with Vanderbilt, however more gene studies need to be done on this.

With the widespread study and use of genes, especially by the young of each generation, more gene variations have been discovered and cultivated giving rise to gene types. Older new types are 'boot cut', 'straight fit' etc.. with more recent discoveries being called 'baggy', 'slim', 'skinny'. 'Relaxed fit' is dominant over these however current stock trend has been selection towards 'skinny'.

In the ancestral gene stock, color range was very limited- blue, black and very uncommonly, white.  Newer colors have appeared- red, turquoise, yellow etc. Blue and black is dominant over all newer colors and remain the most common as a result.

Vanderbilt is a newer, sex linked gene. To date, no males of this gene has been discovered.  Possibly sex linked lethal?

FunnyfunnyFUNNY!!!!!

 

[theuglyduckling]

haha i just read that post for the third time and now just got the joke!