Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[pgpoultry]

I think Kev's explanation is wonderful.

NTF,I had a chick who had the same appearance with the upturned feathers on the wings and very juvenile look. She took a full year to feather out into a perfectly normal Blue Partridge Brahma. She is now aged 4 and very healthy. Her wing feathers pointed upwards until she went through her first moult.

 

[Kev]

I didn't know that about birchen. I have several blue naked neck guys down there that could be called birchen --- I just call them 'leaky' and don't use them for breeding.
If Allison is still breeding sl Polish, I might borrow a rooster from her to breed with this pullet (if it's a pullet). S/he hatched with blue down, the silver didn't show up till it started feathering out.
Or do you have another suggestion.
Thanks!

Leaky is the right term for a solid colored breeding project 'rejects'.

If you like the silver lace/blue lace look, a silver laced polish would be perfect. Single lacing takes many genes so you will be seeing a range of patterns- some single lace, others will be double lace(pencilling), spangled, partial spangleds, partial laceds etc. Some will be very beautiful...

Basially the polish is pure for all the necessary genes for lacing being bred to a bird with only some of the necessary genes. Pencilling, spangle, double and single lacing share some genes, the reason you would see them out of the cross.

 

[Kev]

haha i just read that post for the third time and now just got the joke!

Haha thanks to all who found it humorous.. thanks to froggie for this idea of a post.

It was done in geeky yet fashionable humor but some of the parallels aren't all that off.

 

[flower]

KEV You are just TOO CUTE !

 

[froggiesheins]

Levi is the oldest and most dominant gene. It's found all over the world and very common.

Wrangler is a gene mutation and seems to be more limited in range.. usually kept in free range situations also.  Perhaps this gene is linked to better survival in rural situations?

Both are not sex linked and Levi is dominant over Wrangler.   There are modifiers to those genes- main ones being zipper and button.  Studies of genes have shown the zipper was the originial modifier but button has since become perhaps more common.  Button seems to be dominant in association with the Levi gene,  more ambiguous with the Wrangler gene, seems strongly recessive with Vanderbilt, however more gene studies need to be done on this.

With the widespread study and use of genes, especially by the young of each generation, more gene variations have been discovered and cultivated giving rise to gene types. Older new types are 'boot cut', 'straight fit' etc.. with more recent discoveries being called 'baggy', 'slim', 'skinny'. 'Relaxed fit' is dominant over these however current stock trend has been selection towards 'skinny'.

In the ancestral gene stock, color range was very limited- blue, black and very uncommonly, white.  Newer colors have appeared- red, turquoise, yellow etc. Blue and black is dominant over all newer colors and remain the most common as a result.

Vanderbilt is a newer, sex linked gene. To date, no males of this gene has been discovered.  Possibly sex linked lethal?

Then THAT is my problem with the Vanderbilt line........ its a lethal one alright..

 

[ameraucanacrazy]

here is my baby she is my only rosecomb turken hen I have I also have 5 black turken hens in with her and her half brother I hope to get some more barred rosecomb turkens. Her half bother is a barred wyandotte.

 

[NewToFarming]

Thanks so much guys for assuring me this little one will be OK, just that he might be naked for awhile!

I loved the explanation on the Jeans!

 

[ShayBaby]

I've posted these guys umpteen times. They're now 5 months old and I'm STILL not sure on gender. The black I'm pretty positive is a rooster, although he still hasn't crowed at all. This one, white with a Delaware-ish pattern, I have no clue. Thoughts? (Sorry for the terrible quality and only one pic..I had to throw her/him in the "naughty" cage just to get this.) And those aren't saddle feathers - there are none to speak of - just dirty, drooping feathers from being low in the pecking order and bossed into the mud. She/he is very timid, not at all roo-ish.

 

[flower]

Most hatcheries start hatching chicks very early in the spring, so people are used to getting chicks early. By the time a pullet is about 20 weeks it will be getting ready to start laying eggs.
When the weather is cold during winter many breeds will stop laying. Some do not stop especially those who have just started.

Chicks which are born during late summer will not mature until springtime and will start laying then. In areas where the summers are extremely HOT hens can stop laying due to the stress of the extreme heat. Think of wild birds which live outside in the freezing cold. Chickens do better in cold weather if it is not too severe therefor there should be no problem raising chicks during winter months in most areas of AZ

 

[Kassaundra]

I've posted these guys umpteen times. They're now 5 months old and I'm STILL not sure on gender. The black I'm pretty positive is a rooster, although he still hasn't crowed at all. This one, white with a Delaware-ish pattern, I have no clue. Thoughts? (Sorry for the terrible quality and only one pic..I had to throw her/him in the "naughty" cage just to get this.) And those aren't saddle feathers - there are none to speak of - just dirty, drooping feathers from being low in the pecking order and bossed into the mud. She/he is very timid, not at all roo-ish.

I think you aren't getting many guesses b/c we can't see the saddle / hackle area clear enough. If I had to guess based on this pic and the 5 month old age, I would say that neck is aweful pale for a boy and this is a girl.