Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Extra Java]

A few pics from today








These are all Jaxom, when he hatched I would have never guessed he would have white in him.


And of course Reba.

Kassaundra,

I saw some of your photos on the Araucana thread and just had to visit this one to see MORE!!!
I've never really looked at the NN but after seeing your photos and noticing the size of them, it makes me wonder how these would looked dressed for the table.

These look like a nice meat bird. What color eggs do they lay? Are they docile? Flighty? Flavor...tastes like chicken or turkey?

Please, tell me more.

 

[Kassaundra]

Java, they are excellent meat birds, great layers, and ultra hardy both for heat and cold. Thier heat tolerance is what first caught my attention along w/ the striking good looks. They are chicken, no relation to turkey at all and taste like chicken. In addition to the obvious naked neck they also have around 40% fewer feathers (give or take) so easier plucking. All my chickens are like dogs they follow me around everywhere I go. I garden w/ my chickens so usually where I go there are bugs to be found, and I grow a few bugs to give as treats. I don't find them aggressive or flighty at all. I have a chain link fence around their yard (just the 4 foot one) and even though they are more then capable of getting out they do not. Most lay a brown/tan egg, but Reba lays a white one

The naked neck is pretty easy to pass genetically so it is easy to mix to get traits you want and keep the naked look. Jaxom has the darker skin, this is not normal for NN's, Reba's skin is the normal color.

 

[NewToFarming]

Lisa,Gorgeous girl.Have eggs from Gretchen and Penny hatching on the 15th.They are being hatched by one of the black silkie girls that you gave me.

Oh, I can't wait to see them! Those silkie girls will hatch everything for you. I think I got the extra broody gene with my silkies. They seem to be broody constantly. That brown leghorn/silkie mix girl goes broody alot and is an excellent mother. I just had a silkie girl insisting on trying to hatch coal. LOL I think she is finally done trying and is helping another mom with the older chicks.

Kausandra, I always love looking at pictures of Jaxom and Reba is a doll!

Cynthia12 ... I am so sorry about your girl. She was so beautiful. It is so hard to lose one of your favorites.

 

[aoxa]

Here are two of the NNs who are 6 weeks old. Both are girls if you ask me. The one on the left has a very large bow tie. The one on the right has two NN parents, so is much more naked

 

[mamawolf544]

Nice blues,really like the bare necks.

Thank you, I really work on complete naked necks, or a very small bow tie. But some of the blue hens I am working with have bigger bow ties than I like. My reds are nekkid......LOL, so hopefully by next year.

 

[Kev]

Yea looks like both girls to me also. Re: bow tie size, left has single comb, right pea. Pea comb has side effect of reducing overall number of feathers on a bird, but it also has side effect of making naked areas larger than on single combed chicks of same NN genetics.

Pea comb NN chicks are recognizable at hatch, they have 'eye glass' look around the faces with a distinct naked area between beak and head fuzz. Single combed not pure NN have fully fuzzy faces.. pure NN have a little patch behind the beak. So even a not pure NN can look very naked if it has a pea comb.

Here are two of the NNs who are 6 weeks old. Both are girls if you ask me. The one on the left has a very large bow tie. The one on the right has two NN parents, so is much more naked

 

[aoxa]

Yea looks like both girls to me also. Re: bow tie size, left has single comb, right pea. Pea comb has side effect of reducing overall number of feathers on a bird, but it also has side effect of making naked areas larger than on single combed chicks of same NN genetics.

Pea comb NN chicks are recognizable at hatch, they have 'eye glass' look around the faces with a distinct naked area between beak and head fuzz. Single combed not pure NN have fully fuzzy faces.. pure NN have a little patch behind the beak. So even a not pure NN can look very naked if it has a pea comb.

Interesting Kev!!

Out of this last hatch, every single one appear to be girls, save one possible boy.. I am still on the fence with that one, but with the single combs it's SO easy to tell gender by this age. Their uncles were VERY large in the legs/comb area at 3 weeks.

So with those black chicks I hatched, I assumed both parents were the NN rooster Brian, because the only other roosters mating the NN hens are barred rock. You wouldn't get all black chicks if a barred rock was the father would you?

 

[Kev]

Interesting Kev!!

Out of this last hatch, every single one appear to be girls, save one possible boy.. I am still on the fence with that one, but with the single combs it's SO easy to tell gender by this age. Their uncles were VERY large in the legs/comb area at 3 weeks.

So with those black chicks I hatched, I assumed both parents were the NN rooster Brian, because the only other roosters mating the NN hens are barred rock. You wouldn't get all black chicks if a barred rock was the father would you?

Hmph!

My hatches last year ALL threw extremely high percentages of cockerels... one big batch of 22 produced only... forgot exactly how many but only like 2 or 3 pullets! Other clutches were something like only one pullet out of 6 and so on. I haven't the slightest idea other than extreme coincidence why the ratios were like that.


Brian never will a daughter with barring, as it's a sex linked gene. He can have a barred son though, if bred with a barred hen. So that barred pullet isn't Brian's for sure.

A barred rock rooster will always have 100% barred offspring both sexes even if bred with non-barred hens.

Also, Brian is not pure for dominant white(it's why his tail is mostly white), evidenced by black flecks on his white area... half of his chicks will have dominant white, half not. That black pullet is Brian's and she didn';t get his dominant white gene.. leaving her with the black gene from either a black or a barred rock hen.

Brian bred with a barred rock will give you some chicks that turn out either all white or start out white then get red/brown 'blush' on the body, or boys that look more or less like red pyles.

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

I am love-love-loving that black-skin guy, Jax. He is a really handsome bird : ) One of his parents was a mottled Houdan? Would that account for the silver 'leakage'?

 

[aoxa]

Hmph!

My hatches last year ALL threw extremely high percentages of cockerels... one big batch of 22 produced only... forgot exactly how many but only like 2 or 3 pullets! Other clutches were something like only one pullet out of 6 and so on. I haven't the slightest idea other than extreme coincidence why the ratios were like that.


Brian never will a daughter with barring, as it's a sex linked gene. He can have a barred son though, if bred with a barred hen. So that barred pullet isn't Brian's for sure.

A barred rock rooster will always have 100% barred offspring both sexes even if bred with non-barred hens.

Also, Brian is not pure for dominant white(it's why his tail is mostly white), evidenced by black flecks on his white area... half of his chicks will have dominant white, half not. That black pullet is Brian's and she didn';t get his dominant white gene.. leaving her with the black gene from either a black or a barred rock hen.

Brian bred with a barred rock will give you some chicks that turn out either all white or start out white then get red/brown 'blush' on the body, or boys that look more or less like red pyles.

Well my BR males bred to red sex links gave me tons of white barred chicks.




Like so, but they have ghost barring, so I guess you could still call them barred.





So my barred NNs are from either of the two above roosters.

I appreciate all your info. It's very interesting!

I'd love to get them bigger. My NNs are on the small side.