Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[redrooster99]

I take NO offense to such discussions but I do know that some folks get bent out of shape for the silliest things.  I think nothing is beyond being questioned because when we stop asking questions, our minds stunt.

Ah

 

[ochochicas]

I think one of the reasons I am so addicted to chickens is because I enjoy learning about them. I've only owned chickens for 6 months, so the amount I have to learn in huge. Today I am going to research comb genetics and inheritance. Hopefully my findings will be posted later.

Discussion is the way we learn! Others are always welcome to disagree with me as long as they do it politely.

 

[Turk Raphael]

I think one of the reasons I am so addicted to chickens is because I enjoy learning about them. I've only owned chickens for 6 months, so the amount I have to learn in huge. Today I am going to research comb genetics and inheritance. Hopefully my findings will be posted later.

Discussion is the way we learn! Others are always welcome to disagree with me as long as they do it politely.

I really enjoy discussions and even if things get a bit heated, I don't consider that as being disrespectful. It all depends upon what is being said.

ochochicas...you have only been involved with chickens for six months? I'm astounded at the number of breeds you have. I've been round chickens my whole life and having three breeds now (the most ever) is keeping me hopping.

More power to you!!!

Turk

 

[ochochicas]

I really enjoy discussions and even if things get a bit heated, I don't consider that as being disrespectful. It all depends upon what is being said.

ochochicas...you have only been involved with chickens for six months? I'm astounded at the number of breeds you have. I've been round chickens my whole life and having three breeds now (the most ever) is keeping me hopping.

More power to you!!!

Turk

When I started with chickens, I had in mind what breeds I wanted (Orpingtons, Welsummers and Ameraucanas plus barred rocks and an RIR). Off to the feed store we went...since I didn't know any better at the time. They didn't have Orpingtons. The Ameraucanas were actually EEs and the pullets we got ended up cockerels anyway and the welsummers were truly Speckled Sussex. We love them anyway, despite not being what we wanted to purchase. We ended up with 6 different types of chicks, then we were given some rejects from a lady on BYC, and then I decided I really wanted to have EEs and Olive eggers. I have a lot of people buying eggs from me, so I have some chickens that are egg producers and others that I plan to breed for olive and green eggs. On accident I hatched out a turken baby from a green egg, and now I want more Turkens too! This whole chicken adventure is quite addicting. This winter I will be searching for a new coop and run so I can separate my roosters and breed them to certain hens. Now all I need is a couple of broodies to finalize my plan!

My turken is an Olive, and I plan to cross him with Marans to perhaps produce turkens that lay chocolate brown eggs. How cool would that be? (Now I need more Marans so I guess I'll have to buy more hens LOL).

The turken chick was the first to hatch, and I had no intentions of keeping him. However, I've become quite smitten with the little guy and I don't see how I could part with him now. He's protective, yet gentle. I think he'll be a good flock guardian. I can't say that about our other rooster - he's a wimp!

 

[ochochicas]

That was easy! I found a good website explaining basic genetics in chickens regarding combs and feather color

http://www.extension.org/pages/6536...backyard-flocks:-an-introduction#.VC2GTE3QeM8

It turns out that Pea and Rose combs are dominant so to speak. A chicken only needs one gene for either a Rose or Pea comb, and that is what it will have. If it does not have a Pea or Rose gene, the comb with be a single.

The most interesting thing I learned was that if a chicken has BOTH a Pea and Rose gene, it will end up with a Walnut comb. Who knew!

Take a look at the website for more details. I'm pretty good with genetics, so if you'd like something explained differently please run it by me.

 

[Turk Raphael]

That was easy! I found a good website explaining basic genetics in chickens regarding combs and feather color

http://www.extension.org/pages/6536...backyard-flocks:-an-introduction#.VC2GTE3QeM8

It turns out that Pea and Rose combs are dominant so to speak. A chicken only needs one gene for either a Rose or Pea comb, and that is what it will have. If it does not have a Pea or Rose gene, the comb with be a single.

The most interesting thing I learned was that if a chicken has BOTH a Pea and Rose gene, it will end up with a Walnut comb. Who knew!

Take a look at the website for more details. I'm pretty good with genetics, so if you'd like something explained differently please run it by me.

So...what bearing does this have on the cock bird that brought this discussion about? Just needing clarification.

Turk

Never mind...Thank you for the link. It gives me renewed faith in my project and if I read the charts correctly, the prospects of the bird in question having a straight comb is facing stiff odds but ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE!

 

[redrooster99]

So...what bearing does this have on the cock bird that brought this discussion about?  Just needing clarification.

Turk

[COLOR=B22222]Never mind...[/COLOR]Thank you for the link.  It gives me renewed faith in my project and if I read the charts correctly, the prospects of the bird in question having a straight comb is facing stiff odds but [COLOR=0000CD]ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE![/COLOR]

I believe that is what the research they did brought up with the comb genetics.

 

[redrooster99]

I really enjoy discussions and even if things get a bit heated, I don't consider that as being disrespectful.  It all depends upon what is being said.

 ochochicas...you have only been involved with chickens for six months?  I'm astounded at the number of breeds you have.  I've been round chickens my whole life and having three breeds now (the most ever) is keeping me hopping.

More power to you!!!

Turk

Did I say something disrespectful in my post.

 

[ochochicas]

I didn't see anything disrespectful here, but on some other threads there have been people attacking others because they are "wrong and stupid". I think they are drama llamas.

About the comb question, the rooster with the single comb could have come from parents with rose combs. The parents each must be heterozygous for the rose gene, which means they both have one Rose gene and one non-rose gene. They both passed the non-rose gene to the chick, so when he grew up he had a single comb.

 

[Turk Raphael]

I didn't see anything disrespectful here, but on some other threads there have been people attacking others because they are "wrong and stupid". I think they are drama llamas.

About the comb question, the rooster with the single comb could have come from parents with rose combs. The parents each must be heterozygous for the rose gene, which means they both have one Rose gene and one non-rose gene. They both passed the non-rose gene to the chick, so when he grew up he had a single comb.

Turk