Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[DesertChic]

DesertChic seems to me any birds that had symptoms of illness and recovered did not live a full life. Maybe this would help when you cull. And as far as motivation, weLLL when i have a job to do which is taking longer than usual to complete waiting for the perfect moment gives such a swift impact. Just today i finished a job that I have been delaying for days When finished, I wonder why I put it off for so long. Crazy isn't it ?

Isn't that the truth of it? I spend so much time psyching myself out and gearing up for the hard tasks, and then once I actually do them I can breath, relax, and realize that the mental part leading up to the deed is the worst part. I guess that's the price of having such a vivid imagination.

 

[chickengr]

my girl was not too red when she got up this morning

 

[Phill98]

my girl was not too red when she got up this morninge

Like somebody already said, they change their skin color few times a day depending on sun and their mood. At least my chickens are very red when they are nervous.

 

[chickengr]

Like somebody already said, they change their skin color few times a day depending on sun and their mood. At least my chickens are very red when they are nervous.

she has just laid an egg and her skin is red again. but I am not worried any more. thank you everyone.

I think this thread is the best at byc!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

OK, everyone's 13 weeks - weighing day. Let me post this real quick.

Interestingly, several have fallen off this week (I wonder if the stress of the hawk pressure this week would have an effect? Or perhaps that is just what happens at this age). Note Tank - he has really fallen off a lot. He also seems to be delayed in maturity compared to the others, at least to my eye. Comb seems smallish, and oddly, he has very little tail development relative to the other boys. Looks "like a girl" a little bit, to my eye. In the pecking order he's quite low.

As they get bigger, weighing in gets harder to do, and I always wonder at my accuracy (though usually it can be verified because a given trend continues the following week). To that end, I don't know what's up with Puppy - she actually lost weight per this data point. She seems fine (though they can fake that, I know) - I need to check her over more carefully later today. Soon the girls will be able to move into their coop and get some relief from the boys, and perhaps their growth will improve then.

Anybody got ideas about why Tank's weights/growth is doing this?




- Ant Farm

 

[DesertChic]

OK, everyone's 13 weeks - weighing day. Let me post this real quick.

Interestingly, several have fallen off this week (I wonder if the stress of the hawk pressure this week would have an effect? Or perhaps that is just what happens at this age). Note Tank - he has really fallen off a lot. He also seems to be delayed in maturity compared to the others, at least to my eye. Comb seems smallish, and oddly, he has very little tail development relative to the other boys. Looks "like a girl" a little bit, to my eye. In the pecking order he's quite low.

As they get bigger, weighing in gets harder to do, and I always wonder at my accuracy (though usually it can be verified because a given trend continues the following week). To that end, I don't know what's up with Puppy - she actually lost weight per this data point. She seems fine (though they can fake that, I know) - I need to check her over more carefully later today. Soon the girls will be able to move into their coop and get some relief from the boys, and perhaps their growth will improve then.

Anybody got ideas about why Tank's weights/growth is doing this?




- Ant Farm

I just pulled up all the growth data from my first NN flock. At week 13, my flocks' average growth rate was only 11%, and the cockerel who was lowest on the pecking order had the slowest growth rate beginning at week 14. Truth be told, overall growth rates dropped for the entire flock around week 9 with occasional spikes up to around 20%, but usually stayed between 10% and 15%. Again...those are averages including both males and females. If you like I can do a quick calculation a little later today after I finish my chores to track the males exclusively. (I love Excel!)

As far as reasons for an actual drop-off....barring any indications of illness, stress and/or bullying would be my first guess. Even among some of my other flocks I will often notice that the cockerel lowest in the pecking order gets chased away from the food dish even by the pullets. I have one very sweet EE cockerel who's been the slowest to really mature and for weeks the rest of the flock refused to let him eat. I actually began feeding him separately from them just so he wouldn't waste away. After doing this for a few weeks, his weight began to climb along with his confidence. He's no longer the lowest in the pecking order and eats with the rest of the flock now. He even has his own little harem now.

 

[Kassaundra]

I put small amounts of food in several locations instead of a larger amount in one, that way even the lowest pecking order ones still get to eat.

 

[draye]

12 week old pictures: actually tomorrow but taken a day early.
First the cockerels I've chosen to keep.

1st Choice:

Lemon Blue Birchen.
Sire: Blue Red Naked Neck
Mom: Salmon Group ( 4 hens various colors)

This cockerel sports a pea comb. He has green ( hint of blue color) legs. Although his exact mother is not known all four hens were good layers, all were at least 1/2 sisters daughters if my Salmon NN rooster. Sine had pea combs. Edited: this cockerel also gave dark colored legs but as it goes into the toes it turns to white. Is this a case of the mottling gene?
@Kev pointed out to he has similar marking to my little ( Birchenish) green egg laying hen, who was also a sister from the Salmon Group.

I think I may do a single mating with him and that hen.


2nd Choice:

Mottled Partridge.
Sire: Red Mottled Naked Neck
Mom: Mottled Partridge Naked Neck
This cockerel turned out with the best mottling out of all 5 chicks hatched. My original choice I found dead this morning ( don't know why showed no signs if sickness), his full brother.
His bib is pretty big but can be worked with.
There may be a single mating with him and his mother.
edited: this cockerels legs are a bluish color but as they flow into the legs they are white. Is this a sign if the mottling gene?
3rd Choice:

This one may not work out. He holds his tail kind of low. Hopefully it's just an age thing. I'll be watching.
Sire: Silver Barred ( Black Sex Link) Naked Neck
Mom: Black Crossbred. (Product of my breeding).
He looks to be sporting some mottling. His grandfather ( sires sire was the Salmon NN), mottle carrier. My understanding though he is supposed to have mottling from both sides to be mottled. As far as I know though there is none on his Mommas side. She is 1/2 Black Jersey Giant and 1/4 each Easter Egger and Production Red.
Color I don't know. He is a dark ( nearly black) with dark red and the little things that look like oats.

4th Choice:

Full brother to the above cockerel.
Brown Red, at least that us what he looks like to me.

 

[draye]

Now for the ladies. I'll break these up some there are 17 altogether.

Sire: Blue Jersey Giant
Mom: Suspect mom my Blue Red NN hen.

There were three other hens in the pen with the rooster. But with Blue to Blue matings that can make the Splash I figure this is the only hen that could have produced these. The other colors were red, golden laced, and silver.

These blue I suspect are also from the above hen.

A three of these are blue, the middle pullet has some red color on the head. I think it is the third one that have given me the answer that I have suspected about the Blue Red NN's I had ( rooster and hen) they were crossed with Marans to make the color. This pullet ( third photo) had a few sprigs of leg feathering on each leg. Not very heavy at all and not sure that it can be seen in the photo.

One thing I can say about that hen though she was very fertile. I have a daughter from the mating to the Blue Red rooster. I have three I very we'll suspect are hers from the mating with the Orange Barred rooster, they have the same type of tight feathering she had. Most all are fairly good sized pullets also.

 

[Phill98]

Now for the ladies. I'll break these up some there are 17 altogether.

Sire: Blue Jersey Giant
Mom: Suspect mom my Blue Red NN hen.

There were three other hens in the pen with the rooster. But with Blue to Blue matings that can make the Splash I figure this is the only hen that could have produced these. The other colors were red, golden laced, and silver.

These blue I suspect are also from the above hen.

A three of these are blue, the middle pullet has some red color on the head. I think it is the third one that have given me the answer that I have suspected about the Blue Red NN's I had ( rooster and hen) they were crossed with Marans to make the color. This pullet ( third photo) had a few sprigs of leg feathering on each leg. Not very heavy at all and not sure that it can be seen in the photo.

One thing I can say about that hen though she was very fertile. I have a daughter from the mating to the Blue Red rooster. I have three I very we'll suspect are hers from the mating with the Orange Barred rooster, they have the same type of tight feathering she had. Most all are fairly good sized pullets also.

I love your first roo and splash pullet. I love that two colors!

And btw, something is telling me that that third blue chick is a boy, especially when I saw that you had written that he shows some red. ( I remember that Kev said that boys show color easily and girls hide it)
I hope it's not the case, but it looks like that to me