Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[draye]

Yes, I kept Vader, he is second fiddle to Pie though, but Pie isn't going to make the cut to the FM flock.

I want Pie!

 

[Kassaundra]

I want Pie!

I bet we can make arrangements to meet up.

 

[draye]

I bet we can make arrangements to meet up.

Ehat you wanting for him? Does he carry the scaleless gene?

 

[Adorkable]

Quote: Oh wow... I had no idea they would feather out faster than the other chicks. That's great! Maybe I can get them outside in 3-4 weeks

 

[DesertChic]

Oh wow... I had no idea they would feather out faster than the other chicks. That's great! Maybe I can get them outside in 3-4 weeks

Most definitely! Heck, my broody hens that hatch NNs for me get them outside when they're 1-2 weeks old. Mama knows best!

 

[chickengr]

Were you asking about cross of BCM and buff orp roo? Usually the chicks turn out black/black with brown faces and in this cross they can feather out black but with quite a lot of buff/brown coloring all over their head/necks, down the breast, probably the wings and backs too. Some can be beautiful with the brown making sort of a pencilled pattern.. but some to me look "mutt-y" if that makes sense.

BCM over partridge- also all black/black brown faced chicks.. much less brown/red coloring than buff crosses. Basically same pattern as the black sex links except replace the white markings with brown. Usually a laced look on the necks, edging on breast feathers... some have less or more markings on the back.

Buff over partridge- hard to guess chick color as there are several different ways to make buff.. could be cream chicks or striped chicks and they basically grow up a dark buff color with some black markings on their back and tails. Actually some will look close to the araucana roo in color..

Araucana bred to salmon faverolles- that is a sex linked pairing due to silver in the faverolles. The boys will be genetically half gold half silver, some may get the "Golden" color like this roo... the hackles would be same color as his yellow saddle feathers:



Some of the boys may be whiter- looking similar to silver duckwing, some kind of brassy(not so bright golden yellow.. more like a flat yellow maybe?) Their breasts probably will have a lot more white spotting than my roo or maybe even mostly white/buff-ish.

The pullets would all be similarly colored to the araucana roo with more black markings over their backs.

It may be possible your araucana roo is not pure for what makes him colored like that, basically it may be possible for him to throw pullets the same color as your partridge girls.

thank you for the explanations.

I was thinking about crossing my NN partridge girls with BCM and buff orpington, but with your detailed explanation I have decided to get an orpington girl and put some mutts for company for my orpington boy.

my araucana roo is not pure for any colour. he came from all colour araucana pen. this is a girl who might be his sister:

she is about 1 year old and stopped laying. I might move her with my orpington boy in a smaller coop and run so she might be less stressed. she has been with my laying flock for over 6 months and she still feels like an outsider.

 

[Phill98]

Not likely to get a good dark fm

Right. At least not a really dark skin and not very consistently. 

It's because mottling also affects skin and leg pigmentation. It's why the legs are usually either clear or mottled. if an Ancona did not have mottling it would have jet black legs....

it is also the reason mottling is rather common addition to yellow or white legged solid whites- to clear up any color off the feathers and legs.

I really didn't know this. But if you, Kass, didn't get it in your flock that has a lot of mottled, it is actually obvious.

Too bad. Those would be prefect chickens.

 

[Kev]

I really didn't know this. But if you, Kass, didn't get it in your flock that has a lot of mottled, it is actually obvious.

Too bad. Those would be prefect chickens.

It really is not that easy to get good FM in a wider range of feather color. It's easiest to accomplish on black feather birds, even then not so easy. I'm talking mainly outside the silkies/cemanis but even it can be an issue in these breeds too.

Also the real proof of good FM are roosters past one year old with dark skin. It is much easier to get dark skinned pullets/hens and very young cockerels less than 4-6 months old.

Example, this rooster actually is FM.. he didn;t have super dark skin as chick, more of a sooty gray and was not surprised at all he got this 'light':

 

[Phill98]

It really is not that easy to get good FM in a wider range of feather color. It's easiest to accomplish on black feather birds, even then not so easy. I'm talking mainly outside the silkies/cemanis but even it can be an issue in these breeds too. Also the real proof of good FM are roosters past one year old with dark skin. It is much easier to get dark skinned pullets/hens and very young cockerels less than 4-6 months old. Example, this rooster actually is FM.. he didn;t have super dark skin as chick, more of a sooty gray and was not surprised at all he got this 'light':

Yes, I know that fm "fades" away and that is bad. I also like these slchickens like this rooster that don't have black skin but this dark red, exotic color, I think they are beautiful too. Do you think it's possible to get at least something like this on mottled? And to say what my family thinks about fm- my mother gave legs of one black hen to dog, because it's too much for her. I don't even want to know what would be her reaction to whole black chicken- or do I?!?

 

[maralpz2006]

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