Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[draye]

Just made some pickled eggs canning them in jars.

I'm going to let them sector three months then open one and see how they turn out.

 

[Kev]

Interesting, "most likely to clear their legs to yellow"
The 'white / genetically black' is this just for hatchery white rocks?

All commercial/production bred white birds- leghorns, CX breeding stock plus many show stock whites- but with the show stock, especially ornamental stock(silkies) a fair number use recessive white instead of dominant white. As for hatchery/show bred white rocks, there are separate lines that either use dominant white or recessive white.

Recessive white is much better at covering up both black and red series pigments while dominant white works mainly on black- example red sex links(white tail, red body) so for all white using dominant white you have to put it over a solid black chicken. Leghorns and CX stock are universally dominant white, that is why they are also universally solid black, genetically.

The black genes also like to put dark pigment on the legs, this is the reason barring is often added as barring also dilutes dark pigment off the skin and legs plus any remaining pigment on the feathers.. creating the desired pure white feathers with clear yellow skin and legs with no 'blemishes'.

as for why they chose dominant white vs recessive white I never came across a specific reason for why. It is not too rare to find recessive white in dominant white stocks though, as many lines can have some other kind of dilutor thrown in- can be mottle, blue or....

 

[Kev]

I have gotten some runts from my DC's. 4 so far. I wonder if yours are coming from the meat bird side of the cross.

Mine are very small, but made of MEAT. They are little meat bricks a bit bigger then a softball. All pullets. Very, very cute. Unfortunately they all prolapsed and had to be put down.

If I ever get more I will cull them before point of lay.

Oh no.. hmmm was kind of thinking of letting them mature, really want to reduce bird number/projects but those look so different it was tempting to eventually breed and see what happens. It's the genetics geek in me.

What you describe is close to what the pullets are like, very small but really solidly built. Prob not as solid as yours were since they are a cross of sorts- ranger parent over a very normal dual purpose bodied hens.

Any chance of pictures of your examples? I will try to take some and post to see how they compare,

Here is the father(freedom ranger crossed with black ranger), you can see some cornish influence- rather short legs and really broad body:

 

[Mini Meat]

Oh no.. hmmm was kind of thinking of letting them mature, really want to reduce bird number/projects but those look so different it was tempting to eventually breed and see what happens. It's the genetics geek in me.

What you describe is close to what the pullets are like, very small but really solidly built. Prob not as solid as yours were since they are a cross of sorts- ranger parent over a very normal dual purpose bodied hens.

Any chance of pictures of your examples? I will try to take some and post to see how they compare,

Here is the father(freedom ranger crossed with black ranger), you can see some cornish influence- rather short legs and really broad body:

He almost looks like a Dorking. Handsome bird.
That is what I find so interesting about crossing chicken breeds. Some times something random crops up and makes you go oh...


I had thought about breeding my tiny ones as well because proportionally their meat qualities were great.
I could only find one Picture of a dwarfish pullet.

Unfortunately, it's not a very good one. It only has the 1/2 inch hose in the back round to offer scale. They were tiny tiny tiny and layed full sized eggs.. Their legs were proportional to their bodies. Actually except for big eyes they were surprisingly proportional all around.

I hope you have a better luck with yours.

 

[chickengr]

Heres some current pictures. They're not the best. We just got over a thunderstorm and torrential ( haha don't really know how to define this word. It just popped into my head and I wanted to use it) rains.



This is the little Silver Partridge pullet, I originally thought it was a cockerel. @Kev can my Cinnamon rooster even produce a silver cockerel with those Partridge hens?



Don't really know what to call the color on this pullet. Her mother is what I call a Blue Gold. Not sure there is a name for her color pattern. Anyway the Cinnamon rooster is the daddy of this pullet.


Okay not a NN. Hatched this one out to help on the green egg project. What y'all think? Cockerel? I do. It wassupposed to be a NN green Egger, but personally I think the eggs got mixed up.

I haven't decided for sure if I'll keep him/her or not.



Another not NN. I do know for sure though that his mama was a Green Egger NN. I bred her and sold her to someone. They in turn bred her to a Csndy Corn Polish. I traded out eggs and this one was the only one that hatched. I almost positive this one is a cockerel.

My ideal is to add crests to the Green Egger NN to make it a bit easier to identify the green Eggers from the rest.

If this one is a cockerel ( his red is awfully redder looking than it is on a pullet), I'll most likely use him over the one posted above.

nice birds, nice colours, as usual.

 

[draye]

nice birds, nice colours, as usual.

Thank you.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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I agree. I don't always comment, but I always love all the photos you post.

 

[DesertChic]

I agree. I don't always comment, but I always love all the photos you post.

Me three!

 

[Turk Raphael]

I managed to get 4 white NN pullets from dad's defunct SOP project. They are redolent of some of the old stock dad had years ago. I'm not fond of the straight combs so will be breeding them to my newest and youngest White Chantecler that I was fortunate enough to get, along with his brood sister. These are the two youngsters that were outside in all kinds of cold, rain and near-snowy weather that either proved their metal or forged it.

 

[tcobbs]

This is our Pete. I think he is gorgeous!

This is Lucy, our resident Red Head... I think it is interesting how fluffy Pete is compared to how smooth Lucy is. I will get a better photo of Lucy's full body... But, even their heads and bowties show the difference.