Naked Neck/Turken Thread

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Skin on soles or the whole leg? Solid black/blue with yellow legs are very HARD to make. Requires specific pattern base(eb<partridge> or ER<birchen>) plus melanizers to make them solid colored. Plus yellow skin and Id for yellow legs(doing on ER base a little trickier- so far nobody knows why some have black shanks while others get colored shanks). Don't think it's possible with your stock, if I remember what Orps are based on(think E, which makes it impossible to have leg color other than black on black/blue birds).

For yellow soles, all you need is to introduce yellow skin. Yellow skin is recessive though, would be necessary to outcross then cross siblings again or back to a yellow skin etc. Good thing is, once you have yellow skin in both sexes, you are set for this, no more 'surprises' showing up in this regard later.

Any bird or breed with yellow skin(either whole leg yellow or only soles.. even willow legs will work ok as that's just yellow skin plus pigmented legs) will do.. but easier to keep the solid color is to limit outcrossing to solid black(blue or splash will be fine too, as long as no color leak on saddle/wings). Barred or Black Rocks, Jersey Giant(if they have yellow soles?)... or even other naked necks with yellow/willow legs- but again you want solid colored black/blue body to avoid color leakage problems.


If you have yellow soles showing on even just one bird, it's proof of it floating around in your birds. Keep and breed those, no need to outcross.
 
So glad you are back, Kev! I appreciate all your help.
I have a single comb black NN hen that lays brown eggs. To breed back *toward* NN ASOP, the nearest thing I have is black Plymouth Rock, I think.
Tail angle is off a bit --- 30* (PR) vs. 20* (NN) for males, but females are both 20*. Tail angle is 45* and 30* for Jersey Giants. Weight for NN is closer to PR than JG.
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Great study and observation skills! Barred rocks will be fine if you have them handy, barred is simply a black bird with barring so if there's a matching BR... Barring is easily ditched in a sex linked pairing or in the second generation if starting with a barred roo.

Showing only the females could be a work around if the roos come up too high tails? "Pullet/hen" and "cock" lines are common in the show hobby in general..

I do have an interest in eventually working on or getting birds matching ASOP someday..
 
Piccys!

Bantam cuckoo:

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Lavender cockerel bantam- check out that neck!

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Lavender cuckoo/barred(barring is not real visible, don't know if that will change or not, the bars look more like lighter spots on back):

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Haha thanks! I am fond of those babies. No matter how long I've had chickens, there's still excitement about seeing babies in eggs and then seeing them hatch and then seeing them grow up....

Lisa aka Dipsy Doodle Doo is the person to hit up for frizzle NN. They are one of her main projects.
 
Kev, I went to a poultry show and some one showed me the book ( Standard of perfection ) and it said that full NN's have a little bow tie
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so which is it? Bow tie or not
 

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