Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Knock Kneed Hen]

I have a question regarding the lavender gene. Here is Lil Kev. He is lavender barred.
His back shows some buff leaking (I'm trying to sound like I know what I'm talking about),
it's not lavender, looks yellow stained. Is this typical of PURE lavenders? Thanks!

 

[gootziecat]

KKH, lavender birds can turn yellow from sunburn. Watch this bird when it moults to see if the lavender comes back in.

 

[flower]

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You are sooooooo bad !

 

[flower]

Your babies look strong and healthy !

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[Kev]

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Maybe that is a good thing- easier to breed roosters with many different hens than vice versa.. If you cannot find other NN easily, it is relatively easy to recreate them. Basically you can choose a breed with the type/personality or features you like and breed the roo with them.

There is someone in Canada who has been working on large fowl blue laced red naked necks- do you know of him or interested in getting in touch with him? He primarily works with ducks/geese.. his screen name on another forum is "duck boy".. don't know if he's on this forum.

 

[Kev]

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Babies look great. Excellent plan, I am doing that with the group of big NN at my place- trying to keep the bird size and also egg size large. I'm trying to set the biggest eggs from this group too.

Crossing with Malgache should give you some really heavy birds, but would keep a group of your NN and sex link mix separate just in case the Malgache cross birds maybe not lay too good or lay small eggs. In the past I crossed some NN with a big Asil, some of the birds were very heavy but they laid medium eggs. All of the cross hens were very good for sitting and hatching eggs..

 

[Kev]

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It's because he's not a solid black chicken. The color on his back are color leaking through on a bird that doesn't have all the extra genes to turn them solid black. A common problem in breeding solid colored chickens, especially in birds descended from a cross.

There isn't a single "all black" gene in chickens, it's basically a 'main gene' that makes the chicken mostly black but they still need a couple extra "helper" genes to turn solid black. L'K is missing one or more of those extra genes and as a result, color is leaking through. He's pure for lavender, not pure for the necessary genes for a solid black chicken.

The reason I mention all that "solid black" stuff is because solid colored lavenders are a solid black chicken pure for lavender. In other words, lavender is not a specific color, it's a pigment diluter. Lavender dilutes black to that shade of gray.

Lavender dilutes red/golds to a straw color.. if L'K was not pure for lavender, he would have been a black bird with gold on his saddle area. (mentioning this in case it helps with visualizing)

If your black NN bantam hen was pure lavender, she would have been solid lavender as she doesn't have any color leakage.

Him being barred is entirely coincidental and has nothing to do with color on his back.

p.s. how was this? Still working on how to do short n' sweet replies..

 

[Kev]

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He's beautiful! What egg size do your NN hens lay? Also, thanks for the information on Cackle- now we know the referral source for those wanting mottleds. btw where did you get your NN from?

 

[Kev]

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It's a girl, looks like a result of breeder trying to breed for either Quail or Brassyback color. I don't know much about these..

 

[Kev]

That would seem to settle it for YP being Blondie's father.. due to white skin being dominant over yellow skin. Also would strongly suggest his color is due to dominant white rather than splash. breeing Blondie with a black would give you half blacks, half whites- but the whites would not necessarily be total white, expect some flecking. With Jezobel, expect a wide range of colors, for sure..

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