Need to vent and possibly get suggestions

[nccountrygirl]

I don't want to sound like My parents ever abused us, but when My siblings and I were growing up and if we ever would have thought to pull those temper tantrums we would have been in deep ( chicken poo). My parents would not have tolerated it and they would have whipped us good. Now to sound like Barney Fife. "Nip it in the Bud". From a parent whose been there. LOL

 

[2mnypets]

Just wondering if you have tried alternative things like acupuncture or hypnosis? Not that I have ever done or seen either of these done in real life. Also, do you have candles or air fresheners in your house that have any peppermint or mint of any kind. Mint in any form whether it's tea, candy or smell good fragrances can keep a mind going for a very long time. I agree with AccidentalFarm. It almost sounds to me like you might be trying to tell us that she has had some molestation done to her. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I found this information on different aromatherapy applications. Keep us updated. We really do care about what happens to you and your family. You're in our prayers to win this battle and finish vet tech school. You've already had my opinion on the vet tech vs. nurse thing.

www.holisticonline.com

A relaxing bath with essential oils of Roman camomile and geranium will help a person to unwind before sleep. A glass of camomile tea will complete the process.

A relaxant effect may be provided by oils of camomile, lavender, neroli, rose, and marjoram. Add a few drops to your bathwater or sprinkle a few drops on a handkerchief and inhale.

The following essential oils may be useful for management of sleep.

Benzoin (Styrax benzoin)

Benzoin is sedative, warming, and relaxing.

It is useful for: Sleeplessness caused by worry, emotional exhaustion, tension, bronchitis, and coughs.

Caution: Some people may be sensitive to this oil.

German and Roman chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla and Chamaemele nobile)

Chamomile calms nerves and stomach, induces sleep, and is especially good for children.

Useful for: Insomnia, anxiety.

Caution: Can cause dermatitis in some people.

Jasmine (Jasminum officinalis)

Jasmine is relaxing and soothing, antidepressant, sedative, aphrodisiac, and expectorant. It is non-toxic, and non-irritant.

Useful for: Insomnia, depression, apathy, nervous exhaustion, stress, catarrh, breathing difficulties.

Lavender (Lavendula officinalis)

Lavender is calming, soothing to nerves and digestion, anti-depressant, pain-relieving, and lowers blood pressure. It is non-toxic, and non-irritant.

Lavender is useful for: Insomnia, tension, depression, headache, catarrh, stomach cramps, shock, earache.

Melissa (Lemon balm, Melissa officinalis)

Melissa is relaxing and uplifting, lowers blood pressure, and helps digestion, menstruation, and nervous system.

Melissa is useful for: Insomnia, nervous tension, depression, high blood pressure, indigestion, coughs, colds, shock, anxiety.

Caution: Use small amounts only as skin irritation is possible.

Neroli (Citrus aurantium amara)

Neroli is very relaxing, non-toxic, and non-irritant.

It is useful for: Insomnia caused by anxiety, depression, irritability, panic, shock.

Rose (Rosa damascena)

Rose is relaxing and soothing. It is an aphrodisiac, nervous and digestive tonic, and helps menstruation. Rose is non-toxic, and non-irritant.

Rose is useful for the treatment of: Insomnia, nervous tension, depression, headaches, painful periods, nausea, asthma, Loss of sex drive.

Sandalwood (santalum album)

Sandalwood is relaxing, aphrodisiac and antidepressant, expectorant, calms digestion. It is non-toxic, and non-irritant.

Useful for: Insomnia, depression, nervous tension, catarrh, colic.

Sweet marjoram (Origanum marjarana)

Sweet marjoram is warming and comforting. It is sedative, aids digestion and nervous functions and is non-toxic and non-irritant.

Sweet marjoram is useful for the treatment of: Insomnia, anxiety, colds, catarrh, intestinal spasms, muscular and joint pain, headaches.

Ylang ylang (Cananga odorata genuine)

Ylang ylang is relaxing, aphrodisiac, antidepressant, tones the nervous system, and lowers blood pressure. It is non-toxic, and non-irritant.

Ylang ylang is useful for the treatment of: Insomnia, depression, stress, nervous tension, excitability.

 

[Lunachick]

This may be WAY off topic, and please don't laugh at me (or throw sand in my face!)

But is she scared of something in her room? Some houses have residual hauntings, etc. (Please don't laugh) it happens.

Does she tell you anything that bothers her about her room, closet, under the bed?

Just throwing it out there, you never know.

Hope everything works out, but I thought I'd mention the unmentionable.

 

[equine chick]

Barb. please take this with the best advice intended. I'm am not a doctor but have been a reg nurse for the last 15 years and have worked with behavioral children in the past as well as having one of my own. You need to take her to a specialist, one dealing with pediatric behavioral problems because honey it will only get worse not better if you don't find out what the root of the problem is. clonidine is not a sleeping pill it is a psych med, though some doctors will use it on children for that. Do not take her off this abruptly, this could be dangerous.
It sounds like she might have adhd or maybe not and i know this is alot of times overdiagnosed in our society but one of the main symptoms is insomnia at a very young age. Your lil girl cannot control her actions and it is not her fault so please don't punish her. She needs your love and support though i know sometimes it is soo hard to deal with this. Meds might help but she needs a very structured environment and as she gets older she will get better. HEre is some information for you, you can read or not.
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/adhd.cfm#symptoms

 

[PurpleChicken]

Barb,
For both your sakes please seek further professional help and get multiple
opinions.


Moderators,
I can't beieve I'm saying this but PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. It has gotten
way out of hand and could do more damage than good. Even if we were
all Doctors we simply do not have enough information to come to any
reasonable conlusions. While there is a TON of wisdom and good intentions
here it needs to stop.

 

[chickbea]

I have no suggestions (other than thyroid - ?, but I'm sure your doc has checked that).
I just want to offer my understanding. I happen to be a die-hard sleeper, and I know what it is like to not get the required amount of sleep I need, which sounds like what is happening to you. It can stretch a person to the point where you think things you never would have imagined. Please do all you can to take care of yourself as well. Good luck.

 

[mom'sfolly]

Before this gets shut down. I agree that you should get more information from doctors, perhaps neurologists. This does not seem to be something your child can control. It does not sound like a behavior issue caused by bad bedtime routines or insufficient spanking. Talk to your child's therapist and maybe get some recomendations from a trained professional

 

[spock78]

I'm with Purple Chicken!! Close this thread before the poor lady either strangles her kid or over-psycoanalizes her. Spelling!! I know!!

In all seriousness, there are a lot of great suggestions out there, but, Lexustami said it best.

Your childs doc is not finding the problem. GET ANOTHER OPINION!! I understand that there are dieases & such that require kids to need CERTAIN drugs but, "come on"!! If a kid needs sleeping pills at the age of 4, there is something seriously wrong that needs to be addressed. Also, if you have to give sleeping pills to a 4y.o., now, what will you be giving that child at 20? 5 times the dosage of the same sleeping pills?

People need to get away from these docs that prescribe 4y.o. sleeping pills. We are starting to raise a generation of drug addicts because the companies that make the pills want more money.
It used to be a drug addicts was somebody that did LSD, heroine, pot, cocain, & the such.

Now the next generation are practically born drug addicts because of all the drugs our docs try to get us to take.

I'll probably get banned for what I'm about ot say but, I can't help myself.

After reading everything Barb wrote, IMHO, you need to take the sleeping pill & get therapy for yourself.

I'm not knocking you!!

We raised our own problem child who was 3mo. premature & weighed 2lbs. 2oz. at birth & spent 4 mo. in the hospital.

It wears on even the best persons or parents.
Somebody else said it here already.
"Take a chill pill & get some time away from your daughter."

You need some time for yourself to re-group & think your own thoughts. Then you will be able to decide what's best for your daughter!!

I hope this didn't sound too offensive!! I've been through what you have & can only hope you won't make the same mistakes I did. Niether spanking nor pills is the answer but a chill pill for mom might put things in a better perspective.

One last thing. Did I miss it? What's your hubby think of all this?

 

[AccidentalFarm]

I don't know about closing the thread- it doesn't seem to be antagonistic or hurtful to anyone. There's been lots of input from people, and who knows, maybe something one of us has said will trigger a way for her to find a solution to her problem. Maybe we'll suggest something that she can mention to her doctor (or the next if she gets a second opinion), that has previously been overlooked. We all just want to help.

I certainly hope the problem gets taken care of soon. Please keep us posted!

 

[Do I look like a chicken]

All,

Barb is doing exactly what she felt like she needed to do based on the title of this thread, venting and getting suggestions. Leave it up to her to decide what to do with the suggestions. This venting might just be her "chill pill" too, we don't know.

While I admit, this is perhaps not the best forum to expound on this topic, Barb reached out to what she feels are good, well intentioned and helpful folks, seeking advice. She did the right thing, no doubt about it and I hope she feels better for it.

My best to you sincerely Barb,

Mike

I agree whole heartedly with AccidentalFarm's previous post.